AnOldFart wrote:oli78 wrote:Thanks for the detailed reply AOF. I'll get it warmed and go for a drive, then check out those values.
When you say wired in parallel, do you mean putting it across pins 1 & 2 of the air intake sensor (looking at the picture in your post on page 4 of this thread)? If I'm going to do that, seem like I may as well do the 2 x 12k as you still have to cut both wires, right?
That's correct 'oli78'. To use the single 6.8K resistor, 'wired in parallel' method, you need to cut both the B-L and Y-L wires ie, the ones going to pins one, and two, of the MAF Connector's Plug and then, solder the pigtail ends of your single, 6.8K resistor, onto the 'cut ends' of those two wires. Obviously, you solder the resistor onto the vehicle's 'wiring loom' side of the cut, -not- onto the 'MAF Connector' side of the cut wires... This method leaves the vehicle's original OEM AT1 Thermistor, housed inside of the MAF Sensor body, completely dis-connected ie, it plays no further part in the MAF Sensing circuit at all, with that job now having been taken over completely, by the new fixed value 6.8K 'parallel wired' resistor, which now provides simulation, of a constant, 0C degrees ambient air temperature back to the vehicle's ECU.
The only 'consideration' with using this method is that it provides no further, ongoing, 'dynamic' variable resistance feedback to the vehicle's ECU however, as previously mentioned by Koshari in his posts, he doesn't think that this will pose any problem for the ECU's coding ie, any possible detection by it, of a MAF 'fault condition' due to the now, constantly fixed, MAF AT1 resistance value. The only reason I personally chose the two 12K resistor network approach, was to 'err on the safe side' and allow -some- although much restrained, level of dynamic resistance to still be fedback, to the ECU.
Just be careful, before you attempt any of this work, make sure that the vehicle's Ignition switch is turned OFF. Wear only cotton or pure wool clothing -not- any 'synthetic' clothing ie, the type of stuff that easily generates static electricity, especially in dry, Winter low-humidity conditions.... Cut each wire, -seperately- and use a proper low wattage, earthed soldering iron, and resin cored solder, specifically designed for small electrical work and don't -cook- the little resistor by over-heating it.
Best idea is to strip 5mm of the plastic insulation off each of the ends of the B-L and Y-L wires and then pre-tin ie, pre-solder each of those bare wire ends first. Then, pre-tin the ends of each of the resistor's wire pigtails as well. If you hold the body of the little resistor between your fingers whilst you are actually doing this, you will very quickly learn to appreciate, just how fast it heats up with the soldering iron applied to it's wire pigtails. This pre-tinning, will make it a lot easier, and faster, to then solder the resistor onto the ends of the pre-tinned wires thus, reducing the risk of you accidently over-cooking it.
Also, be careful not to accidently touch, the newly bared, cut ends, of the B-L and Y-L wires together, or onto any of the vehicle's metalwork, during all of this work and once the resistor is successfully soldered in place, make sure that you fuly cover, -all- of it, in electrical insulation tape or, even better, if you can, use a suitable length of 'heat-shrink' insulation tubing to cover -all- of it, so that no part of it can ever accidently touch -anything- else.
Lastly, before you tape it all, back into the wiring loom, cover the now remaining two loose cut ends, of the wires on the MAF Connector's side of where you made the cut in the wiring loom, with a little insulation tape and then use something to provide additional 'strength' to physically re-inforce the little resistor, to prevent any future vibration and flexing stress from physically affecting it. Something very simple, like a 75mm cut length, of a 3mm diameter bamboo BBQ skewer ie, the type used for cooking shiskebabs would suffice for this job. Just lay it -alongside- of, the 'fully pre-insulated' length of the resistor and then tape it, or heat-shrink it, into place there to provide stiffening and support. Job done....
jrs184 wrote:AnOldFart wrote:oli78 wrote:Thanks for the detailed reply AOF. I'll get it warmed and go for a drive, then check out those values.
When you say wired in parallel, do you mean putting it across pins 1 & 2 of the air intake sensor (looking at the picture in your post on page 4 of this thread)? If I'm going to do that, seem like I may as well do the 2 x 12k as you still have to cut both wires, right?
That's correct 'oli78'. To use the single 6.8K resistor, 'wired in parallel' method, you need to cut both the B-L and Y-L wires ie, the ones going to pins one, and two, of the MAF Connector's Plug and then, solder the pigtail ends of your single, 6.8K resistor, onto the 'cut ends' of those two wires. Obviously, you solder the resistor onto the vehicle's 'wiring loom' side of the cut, -not- onto the 'MAF Connector' side of the cut wires... This method leaves the vehicle's original OEM AT1 Thermistor, housed inside of the MAF Sensor body, completely dis-connected ie, it plays no further part in the MAF Sensing circuit at all, with that job now having been taken over completely, by the new fixed value 6.8K 'parallel wired' resistor, which now provides simulation, of a constant, 0C degrees ambient air temperature back to the vehicle's ECU.
The only 'consideration' with using this method is that it provides no further, ongoing, 'dynamic' variable resistance feedback to the vehicle's ECU however, as previously mentioned by Koshari in his posts, he doesn't think that this will pose any problem for the ECU's coding ie, any possible detection by it, of a MAF 'fault condition' due to the now, constantly fixed, MAF AT1 resistance value. The only reason I personally chose the two 12K resistor network approach, was to 'err on the safe side' and allow -some- although much restrained, level of dynamic resistance to still be fedback, to the ECU.
Just be careful, before you attempt any of this work, make sure that the vehicle's Ignition switch is turned OFF. Wear only cotton or pure wool clothing -not- any 'synthetic' clothing ie, the type of stuff that easily generates static electricity, especially in dry, Winter low-humidity conditions.... Cut each wire, -seperately- and use a proper low wattage, earthed soldering iron, and resin cored solder, specifically designed for small electrical work and don't -cook- the little resistor by over-heating it.
Best idea is to strip 5mm of the plastic insulation off each of the ends of the B-L and Y-L wires and then pre-tin ie, pre-solder each of those bare wire ends first. Then, pre-tin the ends of each of the resistor's wire pigtails as well. If you hold the body of the little resistor between your fingers whilst you are actually doing this, you will very quickly learn to appreciate, just how fast it heats up with the soldering iron applied to it's wire pigtails. This pre-tinning, will make it a lot easier, and faster, to then solder the resistor onto the ends of the pre-tinned wires thus, reducing the risk of you accidently over-cooking it.
Also, be careful not to accidently touch, the newly bared, cut ends, of the B-L and Y-L wires together, or onto any of the vehicle's metalwork, during all of this work and once the resistor is successfully soldered in place, make sure that you fuly cover, -all- of it, in electrical insulation tape or, even better, if you can, use a suitable length of 'heat-shrink' insulation tubing to cover -all- of it, so that no part of it can ever accidently touch -anything- else.
Lastly, before you tape it all, back into the wiring loom, cover the now remaining two loose cut ends, of the wires on the MAF Connector's side of where you made the cut in the wiring loom, with a little insulation tape and then use something to provide additional 'strength' to physically re-inforce the little resistor, to prevent any future vibration and flexing stress from physically affecting it. Something very simple, like a 75mm cut length, of a 3mm diameter bamboo BBQ skewer ie, the type used for cooking shiskebabs would suffice for this job. Just lay it -alongside- of, the 'fully pre-insulated' length of the resistor and then tape it, or heat-shrink it, into place there to provide stiffening and support. Job done....
jrs184 wrote:AnOldFart wrote:oli78 wrote:Thanks for the detailed reply AOF. I'll get it warmed and go for a drive, then check out those values.
When you say wired in parallel, do you mean putting it across pins 1 & 2 of the air intake sensor (looking at the picture in your post on page 4 of this thread)? If I'm going to do that, seem like I may as well do the 2 x 12k as you still have to cut both wires, right?
That's correct 'oli78'. To use the single 6.8K resistor, 'wired in parallel' method, you need to cut both the B-L and Y-L wires ie, the ones going to pins one, and two, of the MAF Connector's Plug and then, solder the pigtail ends of your single, 6.8K resistor, onto the 'cut ends' of those two wires. Obviously, you solder the resistor onto the vehicle's 'wiring loom' side of the cut, -not- onto the 'MAF Connector' side of the cut wires... This method leaves the vehicle's original OEM AT1 Thermistor, housed inside of the MAF Sensor body, completely dis-connected ie, it plays no further part in the MAF Sensing circuit at all, with that job now having been taken over completely, by the new fixed value 6.8K 'parallel wired' resistor, which now provides simulation, of a constant, 0C degrees ambient air temperature back to the vehicle's ECU.
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Hi, are the 12k resistors still .5 watt or a different value, so by reading this can you still use the 2 qty 6.8k resistors in place of the 12k ones. I just today bought the 6.8k pack. Thanks john
biggibbo wrote:Cut the blue/black wire, Solder the resistor in between, shrink wrap, retape seems simplest.
GLX-RSilver wrote:Got it now I think. Using 12k resistors you do as per drawing on page 4.
Or with 6.8k you do as per drawing but keep the YL from the Air flow meter plug not connected?
AnOldFart wrote:GLX-RSilver wrote:Got it now I think. Using 12k resistors you do as per drawing on page 4.
Or with 6.8k you do as per drawing but keep the YL from the Air flow meter plug not connected?
If you want to do --just-- the --single-- 6.8K resistor --version-- of the ET Mod 'GLX-RSilver' then you need to --cut--both-- the B-L (Black/Blue Stripe) --and-- the Y-L (Yellow/Blue Stripe) wires, and then solder your --single-- 6.8K resistor onto each of those cut wires.
That means, solder --one--end-- of your 6.8K resistor onto --the-- B-L wire and --then-- solder the --other--end-- of your 6.8K resistor onto --the-- Y-L wire.
So that what you then end up with, is the --single-- 6.8K resistor soldered --across-- the ends of those two cut wires, on the vehicle's -----wiring loom side----- of the initial --cut-- that you made --right--through -----both----- of those wires to start with.
That then leaves both the B-L and Y-L wires on the -----other----- side of that initial --cut-- ie, on the side that's closest to the actual MAF Connector, that's mounted on top of your air cleaner box, now --flapping in the breeze-- so to speak...!
Now, just cover --ALL-- of the --entire length-- of the resistor itself, and --any-- bared wires, with electrical insulation tape, and also, put a small piece of insulation tape over the two remaining --flapping in the breeze-- cut ends of the B-L and Y-L wires on the MAF Connector side as well.
Finally, wrap it all up neatly back into the original wiring loom.
Job done...!
GLX-RSilver wrote:AnOldFart wrote:GLX-RSilver wrote:Got it now I think. Using 12k resistors you do as per drawing on page 4.
Or with 6.8k you do as per drawing but keep the YL from the Air flow meter plug not connected?
If you want to do --just-- the --single-- 6.8K resistor --version-- of the ET Mod 'GLX-RSilver' then you need to --cut--both-- the B-L (Black/Blue Stripe) --and-- the Y-L (Yellow/Blue Stripe) wires, and then solder your --single-- 6.8K resistor onto each of those cut wires. ................. etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, .................
Job done...!
Thanks for the advice.
Is the single resistor trick the best?
Cheers
biggibbo wrote:I dunno, I cut 1 wire (blue/black) put the resistor in the middle and job done, not sure about all the other wires, and flapping and other crap
RHKTriton wrote:This is starting to drag out like the EGR blanking, where to put the plate, drill or not to drill, etc.
The simplest solution is usually the best; one resistor (to bias the reported temperature) with only one wire getting cut. With heat shrink over the resistor and retaping the bundle of wires it should be good for years.
AnOldFart wrote:RHKTriton wrote:Personally, I'm starting, to get the feeling that some folks on here seem to be wanting to drag the --simple-- instructions for performing this ET Mod, out into a new, 5 Volume, Gilt-Edged Set, version, of Tolstoy's 'War and Peace' ...!
aimstix wrote:Well.just wanted to post up here my happenings with the et mod amd egr blank. Had the engine light come on after three weeks of. 10.5l per 100.
RHKTriton wrote:Aimstix if you were running the blank for most of the vehicle's life the egr valve would still have been physically operating. After that amount of kms it is probably stuffed, and causing an alarm.
I just replaced the one in my son's Jack with one from the wreckers and its a different vehicle now.
Might be worth trying another one.
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