The Winch Thread

[SkIp]

I have a Tiger II 12,000lbs winch with rope in my ARB bar, fits pretty snug with bugger all clearance off the intercooler (5-10mm).
Had to get an off set hawse fair lead as the supplied fair leads slot centre line, lines up with the centre of the bottom mounting holes of the winch, which on the ARB bar, shares the same centre line as the bottom of the winch slot.

The winch runs great! Used heaps of times in the VIC high country and drowned it plenty and still works like new. When I turned the gear box I had a quick peak of the internal components and it all looks like good quality, with plenty of lithium grease.

[rushie347]

Thanks Skip, where did you get the off set fair lead from as i think i will be going with the same set up as you.

[JamoGLXR]

Thanx Ag, thats sort of what i wanted to hear. Next question im not so clear on.
My battery is a Century N70ZZL 540 Cold Crank Amps. Any battery guru's on here can tell me how close i can come to the CCA i can go with little harm to the battery?

Im trying to steer clear of a Dual Battery Setup until i can fun most of my mods in a few weeks

[SkIp]

Thanks Skip, where did you get the off set fair lead from as i think i will be going with the same set up as you.

I bought this one off of ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Offset-Hawse-Fai ... 4aa196bf9c

I also sold the supplied fairlead on ebay for $60

[rushie347]

Thanks Skip, where did you get the off set fair lead from as i think i will be going with the same set up as you.

I bought this one off of ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Offset-Hawse-Fai ... 4aa196bf9c

I also sold the supplied fairlead on ebay for $60

Thanks for your help on that, going to get a winch this week.

[Avenger4x4]

If you buy the winch that is supplied with that offset fair-lead it'll only cost you an extra $20

[johnnie5]

Mannell Motors say they can't fit a Tigerz11 into an ARB bar, but Tigerz11 rep on another forum says that they haven't found a bar yet that it won't fit. So either Mannell are so keen to sell me a Warn instead, that they'll lie about it, or there's some other confusion. I know they knew I meant the 12K single speed, because they detailed that in the same quote the line above where they say they can't fit it.

So would REALLY like to know if anyone has actually fitted one.

Jimmy at Manells fitted a tigerz 12k pound into my colorado arb deluxe bar with no dramas

only drama is the freespool lever is in the wrong spot , but nothing that when i get some time to pull it back out and check it over will be able to fix

[ag9111]

Thanx Ag, thats sort of what i wanted to hear. Next question im not so clear on.
My battery is a Century N70ZZL 540 Cold Crank Amps. Any battery guru's on here can tell me how close i can come to the CCA i can go with little harm to the battery?

Im trying to steer clear of a Dual Battery Setup until i can fun most of my mods in a few weeks

You can run a winch from a small battery as long as you dont drain it and allow the car to recharge it. Just have to be sensible and only run the winch in short bursts with plenty of recovery time.

[rushie347]

I installed the Tigrez11 winch on friday night. Easy job for two people and a couple of cans of Jack.
We used a engine crane to hold the bullbar forward from the car as the power for the spoties and UHF is hard wired and only had about a foot of slack.
Had to buy a couple of longer bolt as the ones supplied are too short and an offset hawse fairlead.
We also managed to mount the control box behind the bar out of the way. (Looks a lot better than a ugly box with cable sitting on the bar).
You have too rotate the housing to get the gear box leaver in the correct posistion.
Also need a slim line number plate to clear the winch rope on some angles.

[ag9111]

We also managed to mount the control box behind the bar out of the way. (Looks a lot better than a ugly box with cable sitting on the bar).

Rushie
How did you secure the control box behind the bar. I placed mine in front of the battery for the same reason( they look ugly) and had to make up a bracket, but I would prefer inside the bar but could not work out how to mount it there without drilling into the bar and wrecking the paint work

[rushie347]

Its mounted on the driver side of the bar, I used one of the bolts that holds on the black rubber on the bar and had to drill one beside it. You cant realy see it as its hidden by the driving light. Its a tight fit but worth drilling the hole.

[SkIp]

Careful leaving the winch hook against the fairlead like that mate as it could bur, which can damage the rope if used under load

[rushie347]

Were do you leave yours when not in use? I didnt want to run it down to the recovery hook for the same reason.

[SkIp]

I turned up a bush similar to this http://www.winchsaver.com/ using rubber 25mm thick X 50mm diameter with a 18mm hole up the guts and a slot cut to allow it to slide onto the rope, tension on this holds it into position and has never fallen off. Only disadvantage is the hook protrudes from the bar slightly

[SkIp]

these look good too http://www.toughstuffproducts.com/jeep/ ... imble.html

[rushie347]

Both good idears, thanks again skip.

[SkIp]

I have also thought about the idea of replacing the steel rollers on a standard cable roller fairlead with a material like delron, but I think it has already been done but is not a big job if you know a machinist or have access to a lathe

[rushie347]

I was told that with a roller set up the rope can pinch in the corner of the rollers doing damage to the rope.

[sam]

Has anybody got or had anything to do with T Max winches and if so was it good, bad or ugly

Just doing research to buy a winch and my mate sells these so any info apreciated

[sam]

Well after a lot of research have decided to go for a Tigerz 11 12000 lb 2 speed winch with rope

Was keen on the Premier 12000 until I got the PRICE of $2540 plus $600 for 35 mtr's of rope..

The 9000 lb is $1500 plus the rope so a Tigerz at 975 with rope sounds to be very good value.

I thought Warn winches were the real expensive jobbies but the Premier is right up there with them it seems.


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[daryn]

Premier are still the only winch ohs approved because of their braking system.

[The Alberto]

Mate has a Magnum 9000 on his Lux and it is rubbish. It cost him $400 for a service by ARB before a trip to the cape and it sh*t itself when winching up the Gunshot. First time used since the rebuild, having said that it has always been gutless. Just had it rebuilt for $700 the other day and it is still not right.

Another mate has the 9500lb TJM Ox and loves it, single pulled his 80 series towing a fully laden camper trailer up and over the gunshot. Then turned around and winched old mate with the crapped out Magnum up and over as well.

I just put a 12,000lb Ironman on the Tri. I liked the fact it has the 6hp motor and a full 3 year warranty, plus it seems to rate very well for the price. 12000 is probably overkill on the Tri, but surely this is one time when bigger is better? I used it on the week-end just to test it out and it easily pulled me up a very steep track. I has a faster retrieve than the OX, but everything else seemed OK. Time will tell I suppose.

4x4 action did a comparo a little while ago and this is what they came up with:

1st Premier 9000lb $1495
2nd Warn 9.5XP $2028
3rd TJM/OX 9500lb $999
4th Ironman 9500lb $799
5th Opposit Lock 9500lb $950
6/7th TMAX 9000lb $699
6/7th TMAX 10,000lb $799
8th Warn 12,000lb $2432
9th Mile Marker 9000lb $1539
10th Warn Magnum 9000lb $934

[sam]

Premier are still the only winch ohs approved because of their braking system.

What is ohs, is that refering to synthetic rope if so the Tigerz 11, 2 sp winch has some sorta disc brake set up in the motor so no heat at all for rope at least that's what I;ve been told

[Joe]

^^pretty sure daryn is refering to Occupational Health and Safety sam

[daryn]

As in workcover approved, sorry