Recovery points

[ag9111]

Love those brackets with the standard bash plates

[Hymie]

Wonder what the chance would be to get the drawings of these and it might be something say Prestige could get fabricated to a price.

Has anyone any idea on how much it would cost to get these ADR approved or the process involved?

I am quite sure that if these were made available they would sell like hotcakes around here.

[coxy47]

Wonder what the chance would be to get the drawings of these and it might be something say Prestige could get fabricated to a price.

Has anyone any idea on how much it would cost to get these ADR approved or the process involved?

I am quite sure that if these were made available they would sell like hotcakes around here.

Pretty sure they dont need to be ADR approved though i could be wrong. The main problem is how they are rated. Shackles etc are rated according to lifting standards which requires a factor of safety of 4-5x the WLL (ill find the standard tomorrow). I dont believe there is a standard governing recovery points though. Id want them rated higher then the shackles that they are being used with though.

The issue in rating them is the chassis of the vehicle itself. As an example you cant rate the point for 5 tonne when the chassis will fail at 4 tonne using that mounting configuration. Without accurately knowing the grade of steel used in the chassis i.e. the yield stress of the material you cant be certain and truly rate the point.

[killa]

Pretty sure they dont need to be ADR approved though i could be wrong. The main problem is how they are rated. Shackles etc are rated according to lifting standards which requires a factor of safety of 4-5x the WLL (ill find the standard tomorrow). I dont believe there is a standard governing recovery points though. Id want them rated higher then the shackles that they are being used with though.
6:1 Safety factor for shackles, AS2741

The issue in rating them is the chassis of the vehicle itself. As an example you cant rate the point for 5 tonne when the chassis will fail at 4 tonne using that mounting configuration. Without accurately knowing the grade of steel used in the chassis i.e. the yield stress of the material you cant be certain and truly rate the point.

Right on the money here, although the recovery point will still be rated to the 5T, the user needs to be aware that his/her chassis is only good for 4T and use the rated point with this in mind.
A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link

[coxy47]

Pretty sure they dont need to be ADR approved though i could be wrong. The main problem is how they are rated. Shackles etc are rated according to lifting standards which requires a factor of safety of 4-5x the WLL (ill find the standard tomorrow). I dont believe there is a standard governing recovery points though. Id want them rated higher then the shackles that they are being used with though.
6:1 Safety factor for shackles, AS2741

The issue in rating them is the chassis of the vehicle itself. As an example you cant rate the point for 5 tonne when the chassis will fail at 4 tonne using that mounting configuration. Without accurately knowing the grade of steel used in the chassis i.e. the yield stress of the material you cant be certain and truly rate the point.

Right on the money here, although the recovery point will still be rated to the 5T, the user needs to be aware that his/her chassis is only good for 4T and use the rated point with this in mind.
A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link

There we go. Couldnt quite remember the standard.

Fair point and your right. However, from an engineering stand point, I personally wouldn't rate something that was designed for a specific application to be stronger then its mounting point.

[Sky Miner]

Sky Miner, have you thought of possibly bending the bracket 90deg to form an 'L' shape and replace the hook with a hole

Going to the workshop tomorrow (got the day off ) so ill have a go at bending it....10mm plate gonna take some heat to bend this one If it works ill put it on the drivers side just for a tow hook

Allso gonna make up a second one to fit a shackel'15mm plate for the shackel and 8mm for the backing plate' but this time full lenth as the original plate + HT bolts......see how this one goes

[Sky Miner]

It's not as pretty as one done by a plasma cutter' but it'll do me
This sucker aint gonna break before that (4t) shackel does.

[snowman]

It's not as pretty as one done by a plasma cutter' but it'll do me
This sucker aint gonna break before that (4t) shackel does.

that's what i was talking about.

[Sky Miner]

Oh dear what were holden thinking when they pulled out that
skip bin truck 14sec in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHHF8piaxDA

[coxy47]

Couldnt help but comment on that one.

I particularly like that fact that holden have it set to approve comments before they are showed

[trouble]

It's not as pretty as one done by a plasma cutter' but it'll do me
This sucker aint gonna break before that (4t) shackel does.

group buy????
I'm in! How much??

[fridgie]

Couldnt help but comment on that one.

I particularly like that fact that holden have it set to approve comments before they are showed

Me too (even bet them they wouldn't post it )

Then noticed a gm forum praising the ad, so signed up and gave em a serve there too

Chucking a chain around the rear bar of the truck(which is NOT load bearing) without securing it , people standing too close and worst of all the use of the tow ball on the colorado....F&*kwits!!!

[NowForThe5th]

Give 'em heaps, fridgie. Very dangerous practice and should not be condoned in any way, even if it is "just an ad".

[Froggy]

Give 'em heaps, fridgie. Very dangerous practice and should not be condoned in any way, even if it is "just an ad".

X2
Typical holden BS

[chopper]

It now says 'there are no comments for this video'

[coxy47]

It now says 'there are no comments for this video'

Exactly what it said when I commented originally. I doubt what I said will get approved even though I wasn't particularly harsh.

[chopper]

Stupid ads.

[snowman]

i cant believe you blokes are getting all fussed about reality on TV ads.

[RHKTriton]

All I can add - media folk! Just stick em in the box next to Snot Party members.

[andyj]

Oh dear what were holden thinking when they pulled out that
skip bin truck 14sec in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHHF8piaxDA

And now its been removed ??????????????????

[Sky Miner]

Intresting
I wonder if theyll re-think the ad on TV as well..........

[Froggy]

Just watching the ad on tv and there seems to definitely be some sort of hitch where the tow ball was in this YouTube clip! Doesn't look like anything I've seen before but there is something yellow there now.
Still shows a chain around the trucks rear step through.

[Sky Miner]

Ya rite all fixed now .........photo shopped perhaps ??? ...hmm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3dhb57vur0

[Froggy]

Lol! It even says in the fine print at the bottom to use a rated shackle and chain or something to that effect!

[coxy47]

im sure they copped some abuse for that one.