balance shaft

balance shaft

Postby mitzi1 on Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:45 pm

Can anyone tell me if the 4N15 engine has a balance shaft please ? If it has one how is it driven?
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Re: balance shaft

Postby NowForThe5th on Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:41 pm

MQ_balance_shaft.jpg


Took me all of 30 seconds to access in the online manual, via the link in the Forum Directory.
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Re: balance shaft

Postby mitzi1 on Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:42 pm

Thanks for that. So are there 1 or 2 balance shafts.
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Re: balance shaft

Postby NowForThe5th on Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:35 pm

Go to the manual and have a look for yourself.
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Re: balance shaft

Postby mitzi1 on Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:32 pm

I have mate. it looks like the carrier holds two shafts. Also excuse my ignorance but are idler gears etc inside the crank case, or outside in a space behind the timing chain case. And would working on this stuff entail dropping the front diff and then the sump to get at it? Seems to me it would. Again apologies for my ignorance but diagrams can be totally confusing if you're not familiar with the vehicle.
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Re: balance shaft

Postby DibbyDibbyDJ on Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:58 am

The idler gear is behind the timing case, and you need to remove the diff and steering rack to remove the sump
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Re: balance shaft

Postby mitzi1 on Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:05 am

Geeezzzz!! And to think when I bought this thing I thought I had finally found a simple engine that was in a roomy engine bay with heaps of room to get at everything if I needed to .
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Re: balance shaft

Postby NowForThe5th on Wed Feb 03, 2021 1:58 pm

The 4N15 is a vast improvement on the 4D56. I'm just waiting for the 4N18 - 3l, 200kW and 600Nm. ;)
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Re: balance shaft

Postby mitzi1 on Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:52 pm

SH**!!! When does that come out???
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Postby DibbyDibbyDJ on Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:59 pm

mitzi1 wrote:Geeezzzz!! And to think when I bought this thing I thought I had finally found a simple engine that was in a roomy engine bay with heaps of room to get at everything if I needed to .
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If the engine has to come out it is a bloody nightmare. Lots of work just to get the thing out then a major struggle to wrangle it out of the hole.. I now remove the condenser and use the extra space that gives.

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NowForThe5th wrote:The 4N15 is a vast improvement on the 4D56.
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Postby NowForThe5th on Wed Feb 03, 2021 7:05 pm

mitzi1 wrote:SH**!!! When does that come out???


Hmmm. We're at MR Triton now. So, MS, MT, MU.......Yeah, I reckon by the time they release the MV Triton. :lol: :lol:
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Re: balance shaft

Postby mitzi1 on Wed Feb 03, 2021 8:56 pm

Thanks mate, Totally sucked in.. Nice thought though. They'll probably be getting those performance figures out of a 1.5 Litre by then. One with quad turbos , or perhaps electric powered by a 500kg battery, 18 hour recharge time which sits in the tub. The optional extra will be the long range 1 tonne battery, 24 hour charge time, which is towed behind on a custom trailer, leaving more room in the tub for those who want a useful work ute.
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Re: balance shaft

Postby RHKTriton on Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:33 am

No, no, no guys. You won't have to worry about future models. When our Trities are replaced by the Pissan platform, it might not be a vehicle of choice anymore.

After doing the clutch job recently, I'm convinced that most modern vehicles aren't designed with major maintenance in mind.
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Re: balance shaft

Postby NowForThe5th on Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:46 am

Who knows? The mighty 6G7 V6 started off as a 2.0l and grew to 3.8l with variants that nearly tripled the original outputs.

We're getting off topic. The 4N1 engine is a good base but, at 2.5l not what you'd put in your flagship vehicle. When the Pajero replacement eventually arrives it's not going to get the same engine as the Challenger/Triton. All we can do is hope that, if they stay with diesel, that they develop the 4N1 rather then take one of the French motors.
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Re: balance shaft

Postby mitzi1 on Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:07 am

Just to stir things up again. I'm seriously hoping for a hydrogen powered model. It's obvious the greenies run the world now so diesel will go. I just hope hydrogen gets the nod. It's the obvious way to go. Can be mass produced cheaply and more and more production methods are surfacing every week. Every town can have it's
own plant and it can be transported easily as methane and sold the same as gas is from a tank at you local servo, with a quick fill. Trying to power the planet with panels, propellers and batteries is lunacy and an impossibility. I'm hoping the day comes that the hydrogen car wins out and I get to own one. I'm looking forward to it.
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