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Traction Control compared to factory LSD

Postby GLX-RSilver on Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:16 pm

I just picked up my ne GLX-r and noticed it no longer has a standard LSD and i'm guessing its due to the traction control.
My Question is the factory traction as good as a Factory LSD??
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Re: Traction Control compared to factory LSD

Postby Homer on Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:21 pm

I would guess that offroad it is better, on road it is crap...well in comparison.
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Re: Traction Control compared to factory LSD

Postby har05l on Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:24 pm

Threads comparisons somewhere :?

Traction is fine once you become familiar with it :)
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Re: Traction Control compared to factory LSD

Postby GLX-RSilver on Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:32 pm

I just don't want to take it up into the high country and worry about traction on some of the climbs as my Silver GLx-R had a factory diff lock and did everything I wanted.
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Re: Traction Control compared to factory LSD

Postby har05l on Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:34 pm

You should've got the version with the factory locker than ;) it works a treat :twisted:
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Re: Traction Control compared to factory LSD

Postby GLX-RSilver on Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:37 pm

Yeah I know my silver one was great but the factory lsd work just as good in most cases just was surprised my New GLX-R didn't have a lsd.
MY new GLX-R cost 34k drive away where the model with the diff lock is only available on the warrior which is like 50k
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Re: Traction Control compared to factory LSD

Postby GLX-RSilver on Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:42 pm

So if the traction control is no good i'll fit a ARB diff lock
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Re: Traction Control compared to factory LSD

Postby 4wd26 on Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:46 pm

Good to see you back
Any plans as big for this one?

Yep for the difference in price the ARB lockers are a good option, or retrofitting LSD from the ml as well as ratios has been done
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Re: Traction Control compared to factory LSD

Postby GLX-RSilver on Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:08 pm

Yeah I have a few things planned but i'm not going to lift it as high as my last one.
Just custom rock sliders, rear bar as per my last one.
I may have to trace down a ML diff centre.
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Re: Traction Control compared to factory LSD

Postby GLX-RSilver on Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:13 pm

I've already got a power up chip and snorkel so there is a few things to start on.
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Re: Traction Control compared to factory LSD

Postby flatcountrymick on Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:59 pm

I really notice the TC today and was dissapointed. I was trying to get momentum and the tc cut power. Me no likey :cry:
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Re: Traction Control compared to factory LSD

Postby GLX-RSilver on Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:01 pm

That's what I was afraid off. lsd centre on the way.
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Re: Traction Control compared to factory LSD

Postby hammy on Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:22 pm

I spend most weekends in the high country with a mate who has a fully locked 2011 mn... my 2013 glxr with no lockers goes just as good with the traction button turned off as my mates.... plenty of real world comparing and i only have a slight disadvantage
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Re: Traction Control compared to factory LSD

Postby Amaroo on Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:26 pm

flatcountrymick wrote:I really notice the TC today and was dissapointed. I was trying to get momentum and the tc cut power. Me no likey :cry:


Did you have the stability control on or off? Usually that's the one that cuts power and the traction control just acts upon individual wheels using the brakes depending on what wheels is slipping.

Stability control can be switched on and off, traction control is always on. Pretty sure in the manual it states the speed which you need to be below for stability control to be switched on and off.
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Re: Traction Control compared to factory LSD

Postby bill65 on Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:34 pm

its good too see you back ;)
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Re: Traction Control compared to factory LSD

Postby MilkmanDan on Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:31 am

flatcountrymick wrote:I really notice the TC today and was dissapointed. I was trying to get momentum and the tc cut power. Me no likey :cry:


Ran into that problem recently, was in the bush and we were doing a car at a time up a hill so I turned mine off and then forgot to switch tc off when I attempted. Madly smashing at the button while trying to negotiate the track was interesting.

I'm pissed off that the top of the range is like this and that a centre diff lock isn't true without the LSD rear. Will instigate this diff swap or a locker
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Re: Traction Control compared to factory LSD

Postby Cowboy Dave on Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:58 pm

Let's not confuse TC with ASC. ASC you turn off with the switch, TC you do not. Unless you've had a special switch fitted by a clever auto electrician. ASC will slow you down but there are less reports of TC doing that and some of those are suspect given ongoing confusion between ASC and TC.

Whether a centre diff is locked or not wouldn't seem to me to have anything to do with whether a particular axle is locked or not? Surely it just means a fixed amount of power is then being sent to the rear and the front and whatever happens with the rear wheels (as between themselves if you know what I mean) is down to a separate question of whether there is a locker/LSD etc?

It does seem to have been an odd choice to take out the LSD at the top of the range but I suppose they took the view that on road safety was more important than offroad performance. If I'm honest about it I probably use mine offroad less than 5%. Maybe less than 1% event. I doubt that I'm Robinson Crusoe there although I have to ask why I spent all that money on offroad mods with that level of usage. :roll: Presumably ASC etc helps with their safety ratings along with all the airbags and what have you. And then if you're going to go hardcore offroad in the GLXR they let you spec it up with the optional RDL to fill that gap I guess.
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Re: Traction Control compared to factory LSD

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Re: Traction Control compared to factory LSD

Postby dinos4x4 on Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:51 pm

If you turn of the asc the traction control works very well, I have been blown away heaps of times with some of the situation the traction control has got be through.
I have walk through obstacles quite easily where my mate in his d40 navara has just sat there will spinning with his LSD
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Re: Traction Control compared to factory LSD

Postby Amaroo on Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:04 pm

It would be real handy if Mitsubishi published the full details on the workings of the TC and ASC and how it's meant to respond under all the situations in which it's meant to work.

It'd make it a lot clearer for people and take the guess work and trial and error out of trying to make the most of it offroad.
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Re: Traction Control compared to factory LSD

Postby explorer.dave on Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:09 pm

Amaroo wrote:It would be real handy if Mitsubishi published the full details on the workings of the TC and ASC and how it's meant to respond under all the situations in which it's meant to work.

It'd make it a lot clearer for people and take the guess work and trial and error out of trying to make the most of it offroad.


X2, l think it may have been Homer that posted some rev ranges he found worked best for TC? Apologies if it was another member.
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Re: Traction Control compared to factory LSD

Postby kingy on Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:22 pm

mate just double locked his pootrol with these.

might be a better option then arb. no hoses or compressors needed :D

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Re: Traction Control compared to factory LSD

Postby dinos4x4 on Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:34 pm

Dude I work with got them front and rear on his 4b, he's pretty happy with them
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Re: Traction Control compared to factory LSD

Postby Cowboy Dave on Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:40 pm

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Re: Traction Control compared to factory LSD

Postby mIwoo on Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:41 pm

lol! another "traction" thread.

I don't have any diff locks- but I find the TC is verrrry effective.

Obviously this is only for offroad use: The trick is to turn off "ASC", induce wheel spinning just before the obstacles you want to get over, keep the revs up (> 2300rpm) and the traction control will do it's thing. Its very effective, you just have to learn how to use it.
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