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No more shudder

Postby Mud16 on Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:35 am

Next Tuesday i am getting a one piece drive shaft installed to solve the shudder problem, somebody told me there was a case where the dealership has had to do this already on a stock standard Triton already ,Has anybody heard the same rumour????
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Re: No more shudder

Postby Jitsukablue on Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:25 pm

Hi Mud, who's doing your 1 piece if not Mitsu?
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Re: No more shudder

Postby Wallace on Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:08 pm

And the results were?????????????? ;)
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Re: No more shudder

Postby ag9111 on Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:56 pm

Wallace wrote:And the results were?????????????? ;)
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Re: No more shudder

Postby GLX-RSilver on Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:21 pm

Hey there i would be carefull installing a 1 piece tailshaft if you see off road alot as i would be worries about the tailshaft hitting the cross member under suspension flex.
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Re: No more shudder

Postby Eelesy on Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:29 am

So? Whats the verdict?
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Re: No more shudder

Postby Greedy on Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:08 am

Tritonasaurus wrote:So? Whats the verdict?

Isn't this happening next Tuesday? A bit early to tell I would say. ;)
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Re: No more shudder

Postby Eelesy on Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:14 am

Greedy wrote:
Tritonasaurus wrote:So? Whats the verdict?

Isn't this happening next Tuesday? A bit early to tell I would say. ;)



oops... i guess i just got a bit excited!
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Re: No more shudder

Postby Mud16 on Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:16 pm

Hardy spicer is doing the tailshaft and I was quoted $400 also they are using mine to as a template for future customers ;)
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Re: No more shudder

Postby Mud16 on Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:04 pm

No more shudder its all done and I`m a happy chappy But cant download pictures so I have put them on my profile
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Re: No more shudder

Postby jacko on Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:08 pm

what was the cost MUD
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Re: No more shudder

Postby Mud16 on Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:10 pm

$350 cash Cheap hey
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Re: No more shudder

Postby FreestyleCab on Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:45 pm

I don't know about this....there has to be a reason why Mitsubishi put the centre bearing in..... they wouldn't go to all the expense of using 2 drive shafts and the centre bearing if they could do it with one and not have to change the chassis cross member.

Have you been offroad yet? Let us know how the clearance to the cross member is after an articulation test Mud
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Re: No more shudder

Postby King Triton on Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:03 am

Have you tried jacking up the rear of the car? looks like the tial shaft will hit the cross member not much clearance
I would hate to hit a big bump and get full rebound from the suspension does not look good.
You would think the people that did the swap would have thought of all of this and checked it out.
Let us know how it goes.
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Re: No more shudder

Postby GLX-RSilver on Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:37 pm

King Triton wrote:Have you tried jacking up the rear of the car? looks like the tial shaft will hit the cross member not much clearance
I would hate to hit a big bump and get full rebound from the suspension does not look good.
You would think the people that did the swap would have thought of all of this and checked it out.
Let us know how it goes.


I'm with King that's why i suggested using a cardon joint as well to move the tailshaft back abit to change the angle, so it would be the similar angle to super select gearbox. i know with my superlift i doubt it would work not worth the risk.
But good luck if it works.
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Re: No more shudder

Postby Mud16 on Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:10 pm

I have jacked it off the ground and let it all hang and also I have driven it up to the point where it hangs a wheel in the air and both times I have stopped and looked and have heaps of clearance but also now the New Hilux have split shafts and are having troubles now as well but I happy with the result and cant see any issues but also I`m enjoying no shudder and a smooth ride
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Re: No more shudder

Postby BlinkyBuoy on Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:47 pm

Sounds good. Still begs the question as to why the Mitsi engineers didn't get 'em built like that in the factory? Would have to be cheaper as Freestyler suggested?
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Re: No more shudder

Postby King Triton on Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:55 pm

Mud16

did not mean to be so negative about the one piece tailshaft just don't want to see you wreck your car or wate your money.
Well it looks like you may have found a definate permanent solution for the shudder instead of bearing rotations, wedges & spacers etc :D
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Re: No more shudder

Postby Mud16 on Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:56 pm

I reckon the reason Mitzi didnt put a single shaft is to keep the ramp over height as high as possible but thats not the problem when you lift them because you have to consider the amount of Tritons that dont get modified but because of the ride height the two piece shaft would probably be the best option
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Re: No more shudder

Postby Mud16 on Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:08 pm

Hey theres no negative here just happy that its fixed I have a habit of doing a lot of research before I do things and look at all aspects and this was the best solution I also spoke to my dealer and they were cool with what I was doing because nobody was thinking out of the box but trying to fix the problem with small fixes and not solving the problembut make it worst because as soon as you change the angles of the shafts it will vibrate and you are dealing with 4 different angles and which means it is very hard to make them all the same so it is easier when you only have 2 angle and no problems
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Re: No more shudder

Postby GLX-RSilver on Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:30 pm

Hey there Mud you got me thinking of the way home today about the 1 piece tailshaft i'm still concerned with a one piece with my lift without using a cardon joint, Then it hit me all i have to do is postion my slip joint where the cross member is and as it's a lot smaller i should have no clearance issues.
as the photo below shows how much smaller it is.
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Well done about thinking outside the square but to be honest there is really only on way to be sure that your tailshaft doesn't hit is to place it on a hoist so that the rear suspension can fully drop as thats how i found out about my brake lines.
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Re: No more shudder

Postby bill65 on Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:38 pm

HI i have had a good look at my tailshaft and it would hit with my lift which is 40mm EFS . i have to do something my rear barring in my diff is stuffed .
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Re: No more shudder

Postby Eelesy on Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:24 pm

maybe get the cross member cut and rewelded a bit further forward? and get an engineer to sign off on it?
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Re: No more shudder

Postby Mud16 on Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:08 pm

I have a 50 mm lift front & back and at least 50mm -65mm gap between the cross bar and driveshaft ,I also had my doubts about the clearance and had notice that the distance from the gear box and the crossmember isnt very far and the swing distance isnt so far to worry about but I would reckon under full hang dowwn there is about 20mm whch isnt far and if it is a concern it can be changed but we will see for now
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Re: No more shudder

Postby GLX-RSilver on Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:14 pm

I was speaking to my tailshaft guy today and my slip joint over crossmember idea won't work, neither would my cardon joint idea. So it looks like a trip to my mates hoist and drop the tailshaft and check tailshaft angle.
He also told me that uni-joints shouldn't be on a greater angle then 3 degrees unless you grease the uni's regularly. He also said not to worry about getting both the front and rear section of the rear tailshaft in-line instead just to try and get the diff flange and the gearbox faces even.
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