Diff Lock or not to diff lock...

[Homer]

So when you did your CV Daryn (which side BTW??) was driving in 2wd no worries or noises etc?

Or were you putting along with the thing clanking?

[daryn]

My mate who did his CV said at 110 on the freeway a cv will clank, at 90, no clanking, at 60 much safer, my mate did a passenger side CV, the slower the better.

[4wd26]

^^^^Yep that is what was said at the day as well.

if you break a CV, drive to an area that is safe- you do not need to remove on a steep hill where you busted it (unless you have no other option) which could be the case

[Homer]

Hmmmm passenger side one is the one with no bolts on the flange that requires jimmying out. Was hoping that was the stronger of the two.

[daryn]

Hmmmm passenger side one is the one with no bolts on the flange that requires jimmying out. Was hoping that was the stronger of the two.

Maybe my mate is a bit of a HardCore driver

[Joe]

Hmmmm passenger side one is the one with no bolts on the flange that requires jimmying out. Was hoping that was the stronger of the two.

Maybe my mate is a bit of a HardCore driver

Maybe the sort of bloke who aspires to hanging out with magazine camera crews

[bill65]

^^B@stard

Bill65 how did you get wty on a boot rip/hole? Also you didn't actually have the CV fail?

One thing I didn't mention was that if the CV fails you can still drive it out in 2wd, which was a big "phew" for me.

Homer the bearing failed from the sand . rip boot..1st pull it out and went and got new boot on it $50 put it back in. went to high country drive and it was RS ..took in and said it was f##

[4wd26]

Well that explains 2 of the busted CV's the site has seen. (cheers for that Bill65)

rip the boot- shit gets in = stuffed CV.

Not heard of one smashed on the trail though- which is still good news, and confirms relative strength of the CV's for offroading.

[snowman]

Well that explains 2 of the busted CV's the site has seen. (cheers for that Bill65)

rip the boot- shit gets in = stuffed CV.

Not heard of one smashed on the trail though- which is still good news, and confirms relative strength of the CV's for offroading.

i am starting to agree with you mate. not many front lockers though, but some of the videos we are getting, particularly of the QLD crowd, has some big RPM (and smoke) offsingle spinners and no breakages yet.

[Joe]

Well that explains 2 of the busted CV's the site has seen. (cheers for that Bill65)

rip the boot- shit gets in = stuffed CV.

Not heard of one smashed on the trail though- which is still good news, and confirms relative strength of the CV's for offroading.

I've had a busted boot but luckily it happened around town. I saw fresh grease on the inside of my passenger side rim one morning and took it straight to my mechanic. He reckoned that the genuine boots are a heap of crap. Mine had gone very hard and had therefore split. Interesting that all of the issues have been on the passenger side too.

[daryn]

Hmmmm passenger side one is the one with no bolts on the flange that requires jimmying out. Was hoping that was the stronger of the two.

Maybe my mate is a bit of a HardCore driver

Maybe the sort of bloke who aspires to hanging out with magazine camera crews

Mate, Red will always photograph better, no need for photosphopping as what is happening with your article, 3 months of work to get your pics to look good.

back on topic:

My mate did his off road 4wd26, I thought you knew that

[4wd26]

back on topic:

My mate did his off road 4wd26, I thought you knew that

I wans't sure, hence heedging my bets with the comment 2 were torn boots (bill and Skip) and your mate off road.

there have been 3 cv, that I know of.

funny thing when you have a chassis with cv's

also one front diff

quite a few front diff actuators.

[Homer]

But we still don't know how your mate did it Daryn? Can you ask him to enlighten us please

[daryn]

Not sure mate, he won't say too much, it cost him a motza to fix but.

[har05l]

Not sure mate, he won't say too much, it cost him a motza to fix but.

Perhaps his driving style needs to be adjusted to suite offroad driving, bit less right boot

[Mattstruck]

I have bought and used the diff lock now and I love it. Thanks to the blokes who said to go with it.

Only issue is its electric actuation meaning it takes a while to kick in and the locker shoves you straight ahead when you try to turn (apparently they all do this) in the mud. strange feeling.

I dont know what the traction control is like cos when it looks messy I just kick her in and off we go.

I have not had any issues with the single spinner diff in daily driving as I guessed... the traction control looks after that anyway (which was part of my question) and you can always turn off stability control if you dont like the computer taking over your throttle .

happy days

[UAV]

I have bought and used the diff lock now and I love it. Thanks to the blokes who said to go with it.

Only issue is its electric actuation meaning it takes a while to kick in and the locker shoves you straight ahead when you try to turn (apparently they all do this) in the mud. strange feeling.

I dont know what the traction control is like cos when it looks messy I just kick her in and off we go.

I have not had any issues with the single spinner diff in daily driving as I guessed... the traction control looks after that anyway (which was part of my question) and you can always turn off stability control if you dont like the computer taking over your throttle .

happy days

FYI. I'm pretty sure the diff lock is run by compressor, not electric.

[Mattstruck]

No this is a Mitsu factory locker not an ARB unit. Pretty sure theres no Mitsu compressor under the bonnet

I hear the air lockers are instant and mine aint like that

It says in manual to put foot on and then foot off the throttle (and drive forwards) a few times to allow it to kick in. If I switch it and dont move the light just flashes meaning its trying to engauge but it wont lock in

[4wd26]

factory units are also low pressure air activated- small compressor just above the rear diff.
you need to move forward to get the gears to mesh- best to activate before getting stuck

[Diddy]

No this is a Mitsu factory locker not an ARB unit. Pretty sure theres no Mitsu compressor under the bonnet

I hear the air lockers are instant and mine aint like that

It says in manual to put foot on and then foot off the throttle (and drive forwards) a few times to allow it to kick in. If I switch it and dont move the light just flashes meaning its trying to engauge but it wont lock in

It is run by a very small compressor which is mounted on the top of the cross member at the front of the tub it is also the same place the diff breather is located

[Diddy]

Damn you 26 I thought I was gonna get that

[Mattstruck]

Well bugger me. I thought it was electric.

Yeah it is electric.... electric - air operated

[4wd26]

see here the Pajero boys have worked out how to have traction control AND the rear diff lock.

sounds like it has the abilities of a mountain goat now

http://www2.pajeroclub.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=16233

I believe the pajero forum is a open one- but you might need to join to download the PDF's.

will be evry keen to know if the system is similar.

If this works, would go close to not requireing a front locker

[Mattstruck]

Been thinking this for a while 26.

Its a great idea but I think it needs a bit of lateral thought before going ahead.

Brakes will be getting applied everywhere (when slipping) so need to ensure they arent applied to the rear as the locker will be on.

If Mitsu had any brains they would set it up as a 2 channnel TC when DL is applied (2 front wheels).

Anyone have any thoughts on this matter. Might try a search...

[Homer]

That's an awesome move forward 26

From my observations in most situations with the rear locker you will get further if you left foot pump the brakes to make the fronts hook up.
Like the LSD guys who do the same but include using hand brake AND left foot braking, it will wear your rears more than normal, but for the benefit of climbing out of places you would require recovery I reckon it could be considered an acceptable price to pay considering I haven't read too many of us LSD guys replacing drums or shoes?

Within 10 minutes of off road driving my handbrake is rooted and goes to maximum stretch

I will put a quick one in here for people reading for the first time, the front air locker is a very good option if you miss out on the factory rear locker.

It is significantly more expensive than the factory locker no doubt (about double the price)...but potentially will have a pay back on lack of damaged running gear...I say potentially

They are a very underrated bit of gear from what I am reading.