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Re: WIP Wheel offset bible

Postby moses on Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:42 pm

Looking at a second set of rims to put some play tyres on. Found a set of 265/75/16 bfg km2 in good condition.

Seen a few sets of factory 16" steel wheels, doesn't seem like many people run with these, opting more for the Sunraysia style. Any reason?

Looks?
Range of Offsets?
Strength?

Would have thought using a genuine item would make life easier.
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Re: WIP Wheel offset bible

Postby ag9111 on Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:11 pm

Oem will be way way stronger.

better offsets and width with aftermarket.
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Re: WIP Wheel offset bible

Postby snakesoup on Mon Oct 31, 2016 7:22 pm

ok it's probably in this thread somewhere but does anyone no if GU patrol 15" steelies will fit on the MN/ML?
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Re: WIP Wheel offset bible

Postby Kuff on Tue Nov 08, 2016 4:35 pm

So others don't make the same mistake- Patrol 16"x 8" alloys will not fit, hits the brakes
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Re: WIP Wheel offset bible

Postby borngeek on Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:11 pm

Kuff wrote:So others don't make the same mistake- Patrol 16"x 8" alloys will not fit, hits the brakes


Yeah they do, just need a 5mm spacer for the front and they're all good. I have they fit then
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Re: WIP Wheel offset bible

Postby Cowboy Dave on Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:20 pm

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Kuff wrote:So others don't make the same mistake- Patrol 16"x 8" alloys will not fit, hits the brakes


Yeah they do, just need a 5mm spacer for the front and they're all good. I have they fit then


But a spacer would be illegal which is why Geek only ever ran this combo offroad... right Geek?
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Re: WIP Wheel offset bible

Postby snowman on Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:23 pm

and it is pretty funny watching a bloke trying to drive out of your driveway before he puts the spacers in. right Geek? :lol: :lol:
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Re: WIP Wheel offset bible

Postby borngeek on Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:16 am

Yes off-road use only, as illegal. Although you can't really tell there is such a thin little spacer in there unless you were really looking for it... rules are rules I suppose
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Re: WIP Wheel offset bible

Postby Jasjul on Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:54 am

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Hi All,

A mate of mine has an MY14 MN GLX. At the moment he has the 16x7 alloys running 265/75/16 muddies. He wants to put above rims on with the same tyres. They are 16x8 +40 offset. From what I understand reading through the thread, this wont be an issue?

Can anyone give me a yes or no?

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Re: WIP Wheel offset bible

Postby 4wd26 on Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:52 am

legally you are not supposed to make the wheel track narrower, which these will do ever so slightly.

more of a concern could be the brake calipers rubbing on the rim, depends on shape, but I would test before purchase
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Re: WIP Wheel offset bible

Postby Jasjul on Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:55 am

Thanks for that. They're my rims that I'm not using, if they fit he can have them.
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Re: WIP Wheel offset bible

Postby snakesoup on Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:58 am

should work just fine mate
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Re: WIP Wheel offset bible

Postby lil monster on Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:01 am

Nissan Patrol (GU)
17x8.0" ET10 Hicko 265/65/17
The wheels fit under the flared guards but the tyres that are on stick out passed about 15-20mm


did you have to change nuts or studs to run these ??? nissan alloys :mrgreen:
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Re: WIP Wheel offset bible

Postby NowForThe5th on Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:19 am

lil monster wrote:did you have to change nuts or studs to run these ??? nissan alloys :mrgreen:


Did you read the following posts - about how they won't fit because they touch the brake calipers?
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Re: WIP Wheel offset bible

Postby 4wd26 on Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:20 am

The 17" rims do fit without touching

It is a problem with the 16" patrol alloy rims where they touch the caliper
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Re: WIP Wheel offset bible

Postby lil monster on Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:36 am

NowForThe5th wrote:
lil monster wrote:did you have to change nuts or studs to run these ??? nissan alloys :mrgreen:


Did you read the following posts - about how they won't fit because they touch the brake calipers?


haha did you read it..... i said they where nissan alloys not steel :lol:

so standard triton mn wheels nuts are fine for these alloys
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Re: WIP Wheel offset bible

Postby ag9111 on Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:35 am

Kuff wrote:So others don't make the same mistake- Patrol 16"x 8" alloys will not fit, hits the brakes
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Re: WIP Wheel offset bible

Postby lil monster on Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:50 am

well now im just confused cause some people say they do and some say they dont :shock:
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Re: WIP Wheel offset bible

Postby Top End Wrangler on Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:11 pm

lil monster wrote:
Nissan Patrol (GU)
17x8.0" ET10 Hicko 265/65/17
The wheels fit under the flared guards but the tyres that are on stick out passed about 15-20mm


did you have to change nuts or studs to run these ??? nissan alloys :mrgreen:



I had the factory GU alloy 17' on my ML, loved the aggressive look but could never get the damn things balanced to my liking due to the offset. Tried numerous times, even balance balls and finger tightening. It also use to be aggressive with pot holes etc.Yes I also had to get alternate wheel nuts to fit them. Hope this helps .....

BTW I am back to factory ML 17' now.
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Re: WIP Wheel offset bible

Postby NowForThe5th on Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:32 pm

lil monster wrote:haha did you read it..... i said they where nissan alloys not steel :lol:


So did everyone else.

Kuff wrote:So others don't make the same mistake- Patrol 16"x 8" alloys will not fit, hits the brakes


borngeek wrote:Yeah they do, just need a 5mm spacer for the front and they're all good. I have they fit then


Cowboy Dave wrote:But a spacer would be illegal which is why Geek only ever ran this combo offroad... right Geek?


borngeek wrote:Yes off-road use only, as illegal. Although you can't really tell there is such a thin little spacer in there unless you were really looking for it... rules are rules I suppose


4wd26 wrote:It is a problem with the 16" patrol alloy rims where they touch the caliper



lil monster wrote:well now im just confused cause some people say they do and some say they dont :shock:


No confusion, mate. The GU 16" alloy wheels do not fit - they hit the caliper. You could fit a spacer but that would be illegal for on road use (probably, for insurance purposes, off road too) but that shortens the available stud length meaning you'd need new studs as well which then would be too long for any legal wheels. Plus you'd need a set of nuts as well.

There are better options.
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Re: WIP Wheel offset bible

Postby lilmonster on Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:20 pm

That's OK all sorted and fitted no issues at all and don't but anything ✌ :mrgreen:
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Re: WIP Wheel offset bible

Postby tritonsaregood on Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:21 pm

Can I run a wheel with a 114.3 centre bore even though the standard is 139.7. This would give me a few more options with offsets.
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Re: WIP Wheel offset bible

Postby NowForThe5th on Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:22 pm

That could be interesting. Can you take a video of trying to fit a wheel with 4 or 5 holes with a spacing of 114.3mm to a Triton with 6 holes in a diameter of 139.7mm?
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Re: WIP Wheel offset bible

Postby tritonsaregood on Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:05 pm

My bad, I thought the centre bore was the diameter of the centre hole not the diameter of the stud pattern.
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Re: WIP Wheel offset bible

Postby NowForThe5th on Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:03 pm

The centre bore is the size of the hole in the middle of the wheel. However the dimensions you quoted are the PCD (Pitch Circle Diameter) which is the size of the circle, except for 5 stud wheels, that the wheel studs are on.

If you're talking about the centre bore then there are rings available which adapt the size of your wheel to that of the hub. If the size of the hole in the wheel is smaller than that needed then it can (usually) be machined out to suit.

The Triton is hub-centric, so the wheel, or the adapting ring, must fit exactly on the hub in order to maintain centring of the wheel.
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