Aggressive Stance

[EvanP246]

Hi guys, I'm looking at getting a set of Pro Comp Series 52/152 wheels for my ML.

Here in Barbados we have no laws pertaining to how you modify your vehicle, thus I want my truck to be sitting like an angry steroid fed pitbull.

My question is, what offset and what rim width would give me roughly 1" to 2" of tire sticking out of the fender without major rubbing issues?

Thanks in advance!

Evan

[Homer]

Depends if you have a lift or not. With around 2" lift you can run 265/75 16" tyres (32") on zero offset to get what you are looking for. They just rub on the inner corner of the mud flap at 100% lock...just.

Will look like this:

[fridgie]

Send a pm to Kwyjibo mate

He's running some pretty wide tyres and looks mean as

[Homer]

He has major rubbing issues though....as do I when I see his wheels

He is running 33's on 16's with zero offset and a 2" lift from memory - but had to grind away some of the inside corner of the inner guard..

[borngeek]

You maniac! I love it

[trickydevil]

He has major rubbing issues though....as do I when I see his wheels

Your a funny man.....

[EvanP246]

Thanks for the help guys. The stance is fairly....erotic.
My truck is 100% stock right now, so no lift. Could I run the 0 offset wheels with 265/70/16 tires at the stock height for now?

I'm trying to space out my spending, so the lift will come later on. For this build i'm focusing on on-road performance, would a lift sacrifice my handling due to the higher centre of gravity?

Also, what width wheel should I run? I was looking at the 0 offset 16 x 8 but they offer a 16 x 10 too!

[Greedy]

I'm trying to space out my spending, so the lift will come later on. For this build i'm focusing on on-road performance, would a lift sacrifice my handling due to the higher centre of gravity?

I'm not sure what your standard suspension is like but the general consensus here is the standard is crap and a lift kit will only improve handling. That's what I found anyway.

[jop]

Go wider than 0 offset with 265/70/16 (+10 or more)

But use an light alloy, so you don't load up everything with too much weight.

[EvanP246]

I'm trying to space out my spending, so the lift will come later on. For this build i'm focusing on on-road performance, would a lift sacrifice my handling due to the higher centre of gravity?

I'm not sure what your standard suspension is like but the general consensus here is the standard is crap and a lift kit will only improve handling. That's what I found anyway.

Okay got it. Any Suggestions on the kit with best value for price?

Go wider than 0 offset with 265/70/16 (+10 or more)

But use an light alloy, so you don't load up everything with too much weight.

Here are a list of the wheels I'm looking at, which one would you think would give me the most aggressive stance on the stock ride height and 265/70/16?

http://www.procompusa.com/productlist.aspx?plid=100347&catid=11&subcat=209&ptid=100021&Diameter_PQ=16.00&Bolt+Pattern_PQ=6+on+5.5#filter_qualifier

[Cowboy Dave]

They all show up with a 5 stud bolt pattern, do they also come in 6 stud?

Ultimate (a forum sponsor) can usually ship a suspension kit to you. Very popular with members here. It is what I have

[EvanP246]

They all show up with a 5 stud bolt pattern, do they also come in 6 stud?

Ultimate (a forum sponsor) can usually ship a suspension kit to you. Very popular with members here. It is what I have

The pictures displayed are 5 stud but I have the 6 stud version selected.

I'll check Ultimate out!

[dadz]

how aggressive of lift and stance do you need maybe i can help you im from Thailand.................with 3 inch lift i have used a -5 that put out the tires about 1 1/2 inch out with 285/75 R16 tires. But for standard maybe you can put 275 with -10 offset.

Some pitbull stance to guide you though all have 6 to 7 inch lift.................


And this is mine with only 285 tires and -5 offset..........


Hope this can inspire you to modify your truck..................

[EvanP246]

Woah! Those trucks are beastly! I'm not looking for anything that extreme. For the moment I want to know what width and offset 16" wheel will give me the most aggressive stance possible on standard ride height.

In a few months I will purchase a 2" lift kit and go to larger/wider/more aggressive wheels and tires.

But for now... most aggressive on stock ride height... I have a set of 265/70/16s in my garage now so I was hoping to use those for the time being.

Awesome truck by the way

[Homer]

These are the 33" tyres on zero offset I spoke about - photos courtesy of Kwyjibo
The size of these is 33" or 305/70/16 on great looking Mickey Thompson alloys at zero offset.
They definitely require guard trimming though and that's with the lift - the lift will improve your on road performance remarkably (significantly safer than the standard rubbish) - make sure you PM Ultimate though as a properly sorted and balanced setup makes a huge difference. They regularly ship overseas...or maybe I will have to bring them over for you

The photos don't do Kwyjibos car justice - just as my pic above doesn't do mine justice either.
Zero offset and decent wide tyres look tuff...I receive regular comments when I have these on (daily) and kwyjibo gets stopped in the street You are right though...the difference is in the offset as if mine were in under the guards they wouldn't get a second look....

Prepare for your car to be forever dirty though...





Jop certainly knows his stuff on wheels and tyres (he is the original tyre whore after all ) so his recommendation of up to +10 sounds good with 265/70/16's because with my 265/75/16's they only barely touch at full lock.
But as mentioned for every day driving you will want to keep the weight down as much as possible.

[Joe]

kwyjibo gets stopped in the street

Yeah, by the cops. "Nice tyres son. That will $100" True story.


Believe it or not, the smaller tyres are 265/75/16

kwyjibo's truck looks seriously tough in the flesh

[motoz]

I think someone needs a wide flare kit... lol

[jop]

Jop certainly knows his stuff on wheels and tyres (he is the original tyre whore after all ) so his recommendation of up to +10 sounds good with 265/70/16's because with my 265/75/16's they only barely touch at full lock.
But as mentioned for every day driving you will want to keep the weight down as much as possible.

Jop shouldn't post after finishing work at 10:30

I meant to say -10 offset

Diameter of 265/75 = 803
Diameter of 265/70 = 777

[EvanP246]

These are the 33" tyres on zero offset I spoke about - photos courtesy of Kwyjibo
The size of these is 33" or 305/70/16 on great looking Mickey Thompson alloys at zero offset.
They definitely require guard trimming though and that's with the lift - the lift will improve your on road performance remarkably (significantly safer than the standard rubbish) - make sure you PM Ultimate though as a properly sorted and balanced setup makes a huge difference. They regularly ship overseas...or maybe I will have to bring them over for you

The photos don't do Kwyjibos car justice - just as my pic above doesn't do mine justice either.
Zero offset and decent wide tyres look tuff...I receive regular comments when I have these on (daily) and kwyjibo gets stopped in the street You are right though...the difference is in the offset as if mine were in under the guards they wouldn't get a second look....

Prepare for your car to be forever dirty though...





Jop certainly knows his stuff on wheels and tyres (he is the original tyre whore after all ) so his recommendation of up to +10 sounds good with 265/70/16's because with my 265/75/16's they only barely touch at full lock.
But as mentioned for every day driving you will want to keep the weight down as much as possible.

Wow man, those tires and wheels look wicked. I'm currently selling some parts I had in my garage and basement to make put towards the lift kit. (sell parts for more parts- story of my life)

I cant wait til I get my truck looking as tuff as y'alls. I don't think there are many Tritons here that have very aggressive stance... most guys have on ugly "bling" rims.... So I'm sure I'll be turning some heads...even more so when i get my lift, chip, exhaust, big turbo etc.

Come visit any time man! Just that it's literally halfway around the world but that's a small issue. It's worth the trip.

Jop certainly knows his stuff on wheels and tyres (he is the original tyre whore after all ) so his recommendation of up to +10 sounds good with 265/70/16's because with my 265/75/16's they only barely touch at full lock.
But as mentioned for every day driving you will want to keep the weight down as much as possible.

Jop shouldn't post after finishing work at 10:30

I meant to say -10 offset

Diameter of 265/75 = 803
Diameter of 265/70 = 777

Hi Jop! Yeh I figured it was a typo or something, no problem boss.

Now i have to decide whether to run 16x8 or 16x10. I know that the 8" will be lighter but the 10" might look better.

What do you think?

[kwyjibo]

i don't have much more to add but may i also recommend alloy rims, with alloy rims my fat 33's (16x8)are far lighter than the 32's were on steel rims, less weight to spin round so less stress on parts? no? well at least they're easier to lug around by hand so thats enough for me

[EvanP246]

i don't have much more to add but may i also recommend alloy rims, with alloy rims my fat 33's (16x8)are far lighter than the 32's were on steel rims, less weight to spin round so less stress on parts? no? well at least they're easier to lug around by hand so thats enough for me

Very true man, the steel ones I was looking at were 17kg each. Pretty heavy if you ask me.

I've decided on these bad boys here. They weigh in at 14kg each and I think they look a little better. Theyre -11 16x8.

http://www.4wheelparts.com/Wheels/Xtreme-Alloys-Series-8069-Black-Finish.aspx?t_c=11&t_s=210&t_pt=100073&t_pl=5451&t_pn=PXA8069-6883

[Joe]

Nice

[danmcccc]

it says those rims arent hub centric, is that a problem on tritons, coz i know it is on luxs

[Joe]

it says those rims arent hub centric, is that a problem on tritons, coz i know it is on luxs

There has been a fair bit of discussion on here about this dan. It seems that it is OK to run non-hubcentric rims.

Check out >THIS< thread, particularly 4wd26's last post

[CALMAN09GLXR]

I tried an individual 285/75r17 BF goodrich km2 the other day it looked hectic but when turning the front only misses the guard inside the front wheel arch by a couple mm's. I have a 2" suspension lift. Just worried about scrubbing in front. Pretty sure this tyre is classed as 33