Ride Heights

[Greedy]

I forgot to ring

Come on Buzzy. I was waiting for your feedback as mine have dropped a bit too.

[boo-ya]

i have the HD king springs in the front of mine and it has sagged as well. Started out at 590 and is now down to 560 on both sides. Not much of a lift over standard.

[greeny03]

bump

[jimmy]

thought id just meassure my standard suspension to realise the following
FL 505 FR 535
RL 550 RR 555

im a bit concerned about the bloody left hand front, it is noticable to look at it too, also i have the worst creaks and groans coming from the back. time to go see the dealer i think
has anyone got any suggestions or thoughts befor i go tear them a new one

[Homer]

Left always seems to be lower...haven't seen a good reason for it yet?

[jimmy]

not 30 mm though, thats like putting a lift in one side only? if it had been the right side then i could accept that my fat arse had caused it but not the left?

[Buzzy]

I forgot to ring

Come on Buzzy. I was waiting for your feedback as mine have dropped a bit too.

Rang Martin yesterday, he is looking into and will get back to me. I will let ya know what happends

[patto]

Left always seems to be lower...haven't seen a good reason for it yet?

The left hand sine on mine is a few mm lower. i put it down to the battery located on that side aswell as the fuel tank, adding duel batteries i can se will only make it worse.

[Homer]

not 30 mm though, thats like putting a lift in one side only? if it had been the right side then i could accept that my fat arse had caused it but not the left?

Yes 30mm isn't good!
I know this sounds dumb, but also make sure you are on dead flat ground when measuring. I did it once on ground that looked flat enough and got around that much deflection. Was about to take it back but when I re-measured the car on a concrete pad it was gone the next day.....suspension fairies fixed it I reckon

[jimmy]

yes thought of that homer, even turned the car around and still there, no fairies for me im afraid, maybe i will take my fairy wand when i go see the stealer

[Homer]

bend over mate

[Greedy]

I forgot to ring

Come on Buzzy. I was waiting for your feedback as mine have dropped a bit too.

Rang Martin yesterday, he is looking into and will get back to me. I will let ya know what happends

Cheers.

[Naff]

Finally got around to measuring my suspension on a flat!

Ridepro 4x4 (specification rear 40mm, front 35mm)

FL 535 FR 540
RL 570 RR 570

So I think I'm measuring it wrong or the car has sunk. But it definitely looks higher. So I'm going with the measuring wrong. I'm measuring from the lip of the flares to the centre of the alloy... is that right?

[Homer]

Yep

[Naff]

So.. my lift is not much of a lift at all; doesn't even come close to what it is supposed to judging by some standard suspension measurements recorded on here.

[daryn]

Naff, people do pay a lot to lower their vehicle.

It also sums up my bug bear which I have with people who continually say that they have a 50mm lift, 50mm from what....?

For your ref like a lot of others mine is at 590 front and 630 rear and it ain't moved a mm since Brendan and ken got to it last.

[chick_magnet_0001]

after reading all these f'in posts about ride heights im going to ask if someone can measure thier triton so i can compare mine(no flares) someone with a 50mm lift how much clearance do you have

centre of wheel to wheel arch centre LF545 RF555
under baysie bash plate 200mm
the 200 under the bash plate does it no justice in very soft sand, who needs a roller/grader at fraser island when i can just drive around

[Dylan 191]

Naff, people do pay a lot to lower their vehicle.

It also domes up my bug bear which I have with people who continually say that they have a 50mm lift, 50mm from what....?

For your ref like a lot of others mine is at 590 front and 630 rear and it ain't moved a mm since Brendan and ken got to it last.

50mm from standard

[daryn]

But that's it Dylan everyones STD is different and after a bit of time sag creeps in and some trucks drop 30mm easy, they then get a 50mm lift which actually only takes them 20mm above STD, so they actually only got a 20mm lift, they should say your suspension will have you at a particular finished height eg. 570, 580 or 590mm you then have I think a much more indicitive finished height of what is expected. The only difference will be trucks with or without flares.

[Dylan 191]

But when you get a suspension kit it isnt 50mm lift from where your suspension has sagged to , its 50mm lift from standard height ( when new ) so if your suspension sagged 30mm then you would lift it 80mm .

Its like the solid axle springs and shocks , 2,3,4,5,6 inch coils and shocks ...... 2,3,4,5,6 inches over standard .

[Naff]

So what is a standard ML suspension height for a dual cab. Am I lower, or higher.. or not much different? I'd want to get it looked at before I leave VIC me thinks. Knew I should have gone ultimate.. just bit difficult to organise from another state

[daryn]

100% agree with you Dylan, but reality is that does not happen and this thread and many others here when ever ride heights are mentioned will show that the heights/lifts are all over the place.

I know its probably just me but why cant they sell the kits described not as xx mm lift but as a xxx mm finished ride height, because after the lift is done everyone here is talking finished ride heights, the before and afters are all over the place.

Different options on vehicles like bar winch and batteries for the front, canopy, tanks etc for the rear all play a part, but I think what we really have is a lot of false claims from the suspension manufacturers, not all, but a lot of them, quality control with the steel used is all over the place probably too.

Lastly if the lifts were from std the installers would not be taking a before measurement, instead they will list what the manufacturers initial std of the showroom floor height is and then measure you after install.

I even think that MMA list the std height from memory with a 30 mm variance either side on those RTA spec documents.

Naff's is a perfect example of this confusion.

Just a bugbear of mine, thats all, you have helped me get out my reasoning for everyone to shoot me down at least or also pick it up if they choose, but I think it is something people need to have an idea about when getting suspension done.

I know I talk up Ultimate a bit but when I went in for my install the whole time our goal was spoken in relation to finished ride height not lift, we could actually at the end say what lift was realised but finished ride height was the main criteria for selecting the products to achieve that goal.

[timothy]

Dont think we have done this yet. When you all get a chance go and measure your heights from the center of the wheel to the underside of the guard. I know there will be alot of variation due to aftermarket gear etc but will still be interesting. Think sam said somewhere that standard should be 545mm (at the front I assume)

Sheit! Just measured my heights all round.
FL was 509mm
FR was 517mm
RL was 578mm
RR was 584mm

Whole left side of mine is lower.
mmmm must be the big ass that sits on that side of the car

Hope the MOF doesnt read this.

I will check the heights again after the lift on Friday and let ya's know the difference.

mine got the same thing going on.... whole left side is between 5 and 10 mm lower even with an empty tank
chasis twist?? anyway to sort that out??

[chick_magnet_0001]

isn't it designed like that to combat rust i mean it makes the dew in the morning run off to one side aswell as once youve done a water crossing the water all escapes to one side, bloody smart people that think of these design ideas

[4wd26]

Thought I might update after 1 year of the new suspension and 25,000kms.

I still have stock rear (squeaky) leaf springs that have done 45,000kms.

So new vehicle height 535mm front 580 rear
sagged height (after 20,000kms) 525mm front 575 rear
Aussie Super rear and Dobbie coils height 595mm front 610 rear
1 year old suspension droop of the above 590mm FD 585 FP, 600 rear

Still very happy with the suspension, might finally have to do something with the mitsubishi rear leafs though? Still noisy and sagging, even with the assistance of the aussie supper springs.

Once I get back from Fraser- towing the van across the Island, may try and put the super springs in the higher setting?
Might be fun to try the higher circlip on the billie shocks as well