Random Suspension Questions

[NowForThe5th]

Yeah, ok. Forum search engines are notoriously weak. But there are ways around their limitations.

Nick, if you read the How to Search link in Homer's signature, above, you'll find lots of tips.

Here are three more:
1. Don't use Google. NewTriton is a closed forum in as much that access is limited to registered members. Google can only get to the Members Sheds, not the actual forums. It is OK if you're looking for a member who might have a specific accessory but you're dependent on that member putting details in his shed and keeping them up to date. The vast majority of members, especially newer ones, don't bother doing this.

2. Use phrases. Note that in my earlier post I linked to a search where I used the term "sax suspension". That will not only find instances of the phrase, but also instances of the individual words. Gets around the 3 letter word limitation. Note my use of quotation marks.

3. Using the + and - signs, like you might on Google or Ebay has mixed results, usually returning either nothing or about a zillion hits, each equally useless. You would have returned over 10,000 matches for the words +sax suspension but I got that down to less than 50 which is much more manageable.

[dunney]

Are coil over suspension legal in all states with out engineering. If not then anything more than 2" will be two instant issues....if you care are being legal that is

[mitzikatzi]

will anyone with a triton give us a test car!!! You all cant keep asking and then not hand over a car!! We can do it! Also we have extended ball joints coming soon!!! Will be $150 pr!!!

20th Sept

Peformance Suspension

Surely someone in Brisbane can donate the Triton for testing.

[JeffH]

Guys just wondering if you might be able to shed a little light on this for me. I'm on OEM suspension ( ultimate kit a couple of weeks away from delivery ) and I'm experiencing a frightening change in direction from where the nose is pointing when I hit bumps like old railway crossings at speed, not by a great deal, but enough to raise the heart rate a touch. Had the front end checked out last week during a service and the mech didn't find anything out of the ordinary, lower arms, tie rods etc (I did say though don't worry about the suspension as a new kit is on order). Do you think it could be the OEM shocks having no guts left? Feels like the springs are doing all the work Done close to 100k.

Cheers,

Jeff

[Naff]

I'm surprised they lasted that long to be perfectly honest.

[mIwoo]

My truck doing same thing mate---- shocks stuffed, have been since around the 60 k mark, but scary from about the 65 k mark. Dealer should replace front shocks for you under warranty, well they did for me!

[tritonliz]

I went to pick up my truck from the 4WD service place after having new front discs and pads fitted today.

He showed me how my leaf springs were sitting at the rear and explained that they should have a downward curve and mine are actually past flat and verging on an upward curve, basically bottomed out. That is why it has been feeling springy. He reckons shocks etc should be changed over pretty quickly after buying Triton,especially as off roading as he said standards are not designed to take weight of canopies, rear bars etc. My question is why do Mitsubishi not put that as an advisory when it went for a major service only 2 months ago, useless idiots. They are quite happy to advise me on windscreen wipers that don't need replacing at every service!
How long should they last, my truck has done 67,000k.
Anyway I have already got the quote from Ultimate suspension so I had better get the deposit down for fitting, ouch, nice just before xmas.

[NowForThe5th]

Moved your post in here, Liz. Good housekeeping and all that.

The front coils in my Triton lasted less than 2000km, the rear leaves 8000km. If you've done 67,000km then you've done well. When the leaves flatten out like yours you'll notice a harsh, choppy ride in the rear because the suspension is sitting on the helper leaves that normally only come into play when you're fully loaded. Probably combined with some floatiness from the shocks no longer working and exacerbated by more floatiness at the front.

When you get the Ultimate suspension you will really notice a big difference.

[TritonNick]

Hi guys,
I got a 2inch Sax Suspension lift installed in Wednesday aswell as bull bar, rear bar, and a few other things. They did a wheel alignment on the day, I picked it up and drive home and it was pulling to the left. I rang and the took it today and redid the wheel alignment and informed me that it's still pulling left and to drive for 1000kms then come back and they'll see if they can adjust it more. My question is, how bad is this going to be for the tyres and has anyone else had this issue after a lift?

[Cowboy Dave]

I can't say I've had that problem - although I have had it come back from bad alignments with the steering wheel crooked. I would imagine it is going to be putting sideways pressure on your front tyres if you have to hold it straight when it tries to wander left.

As much as it will annoy you, if it was me I would take it somewhere I knew did good alignments and get a second opinion or second alignment. They're pretty cheap (I think I paid $60 for my last one) and you'll sleep easier than you will if you keep driving it like that for another 1,000km.

I have heard that the tritons can be a bit tricky to align if you're not on top of your game. I seem to remember someone from ultimate had to trot down to their local tyre joint and read them the riot act at one stage as they weren't getting them right.

[ultimate]

I have heard that the tritons can be a bit tricky to align if you're not on top of your game. I seem to remember someone from ultimate had to trot down to their local tyre joint and read them the riot act at one stage as they weren't getting them right.

Gotta keep 'em honest

Depending on the height, you can start to run out of adjustment on the Triton. This may be the case with your vehicle. They are probably hoping it settles a bit so they have more adjustment at the 1,000km check. Do you know what height you are sitting at? (measured from centre of wheel to the guard).

[TritonNick]

I have heard that the tritons can be a bit tricky to align if you're not on top of your game. I seem to remember someone from ultimate had to trot down to their local tyre joint and read them the riot act at one stage as they weren't getting them right.

Gotta keep 'em honest

Depending on the height, you can start to run out of adjustment on the Triton. This may be the case with your vehicle. They are probably hoping it settles a bit so they have more adjustment at the 1,000km check. Do you know what height you are sitting at? (measured from centre of wheel to the guard).

I havnt measured it but they mentioned today that raised it 70mm so it was level with the back, back was raised 45mm, and they said over the next 1000kms they hope to see it drop 10-15mm.

[ultimate]

I wouldn't be suprised if it's too high in the front. You should always have the front around 40mm lower than the rear when empty.

[TritonNick]

I thought it sounded a bit high. Looks like I'm in for an interesting conversation then!

[mattz]

Chances are if its to high you'll be sitting on your bump stops and it'll create other problems long term too.
As ultimate said.......measure your suspension height and well soon know if it's to high.

[TritonNick]

I have heard that the tritons can be a bit tricky to align if you're not on top of your game. I seem to remember someone from ultimate had to trot down to their local tyre joint and read them the riot act at one stage as they weren't getting them right.

Gotta keep 'em honest

Depending on the height, you can start to run out of adjustment on the Triton. This may be the case with your vehicle. They are probably hoping it settles a bit so they have more adjustment at the 1,000km check. Do you know what height you are sitting at? (measured from centre of wheel to the guard).

Finally got the measurements off the triton. Bit surprised how high the front is actually. Do you normally lift it that high if there is a bullbar fitted?
FR. 604
FL. 601
RR. 598
RL. 612

[Cowboy Dave]

Yeah that looks a bit high. Hopefully it will settle a bit.

[mitzikatzi]

Even if it settles 10 to 15mm on the front . 590mm is still on the bump stops in my experience.

[JakeMN]

Dunno if I'll have much luck with this question, but do any of you happen to know what the spring constant / damper coefficient is for the standard suspension for the MN manual dual cab 4x4? I wouldn't imagine this information would be advertised so thought I'd have a shot in the dark to see if anyone knew or knew how I could find out. Thanks.

[triton_guru]

anyone have any idea which leaf to take out front constant load leafs mine are dobinson and i have removed alot of the weight from the back of the car now and the ride is very harsh. cheers

[NowForThe5th]

Guru, your post really wasn't relevant to the tech topic in which it was posted so has been moved here.

[fraz91]

anyone have any idea which leaf to take out front constant load leafs mine are dobinson and i have removed alot of the weight from the back of the car now and the ride is very harsh. cheers

Do you know what the part number is on the leaves? Alternatively, post a photo taken from the rear of the vehicle, looking forward along the leaf. Either myself or Brendan (ultimate) should be able to help then

[Dans Tri]

Hey guys a quick question. Does anyone have any tips on how to get the leaf spring location bolt to line up with Axel?

[NowForThe5th]

You mean this one?



Just fits in the hole in the fitting on the axle.

[Dans Tri]

Yeah we have done both ends of the springs and the that pin is about 10mm out