ironman load plus helper add a leaf mn triton

ironman load plus helper add a leaf mn triton

Postby flappers on Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:39 pm

hi all
i need to beef up the rear suspension for when i tow my caravan
the ass end sags down a bit even with level rides on

i am wondering if any one has the ironman load plus helpers fitted and how do they rate

im not iterrested in air bags after seeing a picture of a bloke who bent his chassie

have looked around for new heavy set of leaf springs but all manufactures only offer 40mm lift
which i dont want.

any ideas or input will be great cheeers
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Re: ironman load plus helper add a leaf mn triton

Postby har05l on Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:19 am

I have a mate that runs the add a leaf in his D22 and is happy with it.

Do yourself a favour and contact Brendan at Ultimate Suspension and he'll sort you out with the most appropriate 50mm lift you'll find on the market today, not to mention ntn discount will also apply : )

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Re: ironman load plus helper add a leaf mn triton

Postby mattz on Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:16 am

Don't be put off airbags by a couple of people who haven't used them correctly. Many people use them safely with out bending chassis for towing.
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Re: ironman load plus helper add a leaf mn triton

Postby Kegsy on Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:05 am

Airbags are a pretty good solution if you want a good ride unladen and ride adjustment whilst towing.

Just get them installed properly with appropriate chassis design and you'll be fine.

It does cost money to do it correctly however
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Re: ironman load plus helper add a leaf mn triton

Postby helicoptercow on Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:38 am

flappers wrote:hi all
I have looked around for new heavy set of leaf springs but all manufactures only offer 40mm lift
which i dont want.

any ideas or input will be great cheeers


I believe Cowboy Dave had Ultimate install a kit that was a heavy set for towing his float, but without the height increase because he had an underground carpark restriction. So there is something out there that would suit, like the others have said, Brendan will sort you out ;) :D

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Re: ironman load plus helper add a leaf mn triton

Postby Cowboy Dave on Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:47 am

Yeah they were able to do whatever height I specified. From what I recall even stock height was do-able.
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Re: ironman load plus helper add a leaf mn triton

Postby dabro on Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:38 pm

Don't touch airbags they are crap and are a bandaid fix - the chassis in leaf sprung cars are not meant to take load directly above the axle , the load points are at the front and rear of the leaf springs.
Get your leaf pack reset or replace the set
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Re: ironman load plus helper add a leaf mn triton

Postby mickkk on Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:21 pm

I have the load helpers on my hiace van, Keep putting more and more crap in the back and was getting lover and lower.IMO They are a great bit of kit I for the price , some what adjustable too. There is two nuts to tighten up to lift higher (carry more wight)

Dont know how they would go on the triton, but at the price it might be a worth while to give it ago, very easy to install, and I think mine were about 100 bucks.

For a long term fix would look at a proper set up leaf to suit your needs.

Let me know how you go
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Re: ironman load plus helper add a leaf mn triton

Postby ultimate on Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:47 am

When you upgraded the suspension through ironman, did they do the rear as well or just the front?
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Re: ironman load plus helper add a leaf mn triton

Postby har05l on Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:24 am

ultimate wrote:When you upgraded the suspension through ironman, did they do the rear as well or just the front?


:? :lol:

Been a big week has it Brendan :?: :oops:

The way I read the 1st post is that he doesn't have any suspension upgrades yet and has been told that 40mm is the highest he can go so he was contemplating beefing the rear leaves only to take the load of his van.

I guess when he returns to this thread and see's that you are the man to give him 50mm of goodness you may get a call :D
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Re: ironman load plus helper add a leaf mn triton

Postby ultimate on Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:28 am

Isn't it time for you to go to bed? :lol:

I just had a look at his shed and thought it was sitting high for standard suspension. Had a look at the posts and found this ;)

http://www.newtriton.net/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=5877&p=95217#p95217
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Re: ironman load plus helper add a leaf mn triton

Postby har05l on Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:35 am

:oops: Appologies sir :oops: I wasn't even around back then :roll:

Bed now I guess :roll: and shutting up :lol:
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Re: ironman load plus helper add a leaf mn triton

Postby ultimate on Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:06 am

:lol: I'm only stirring as I think I'm wrong anyway. When I re-read his shed, it says he crashed the ML so this thread is probably referencing a new vehicle. :oops:
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Re: ironman load plus helper add a leaf mn triton

Postby flappers on Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:00 am

hay guys thanks for the input but
ultimate is correct i wrote of my ml triton
and now i have owned a mn triton glxr for the last 11 months
what i need is a solustion to the rear suspension load carrying wise without lifting it up
i like the ride hight as it is
i have put a photo of the new car in my shed profile

will cantact brendan to see what he has to say
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Re: ironman load plus helper add a leaf mn triton

Postby ultimate on Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:31 pm

Increasing the rating of the rear suspension by the use of an aftermarket spring, added leaf or helper spring will always increase the trim height.

The only real way to level a vehicle without raising it when empty is through the use of air bags. When used correctly, air bags are safe and effective and will improve the handling and stability of the vehicle. They are purely for levelling the rear and are not designed to raise it above standard height or increase the load carrying capacity. Personally I do prefer upgraded springs, but considering your requirements, they would be the best option.

The main issue with air bags is when people over rely on them or use them in heavy off road conditions. The spring needs to be doing at least 90% of the work with the air bags there purely as the levelling device. I have no issue using them on vehicles towing caravans or boats on road. It's a lot safer than relying on under-rated original suspension and they do not make the ride too stiff when empty. I do have an issue using them when the vehicles are over loaded and towing over sand dunes. In situations like this, you really need to increase the spring rate.

If the weight was constant, you could fit an up rated, standard height + leaf spring which will sit close to standard height. When unloaded, the rear would sit about 25-30mm higher than standard.
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Re: ironman load plus helper add a leaf mn triton

Postby flappers on Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:44 pm

hi all thanks for input
i spoke to a dude from ironman
so im going to order the load plus helpers
and if im not happy i can return so for the 130 bucks ill
give it a go
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Re: ironman load plus helper add a leaf mn triton

Postby Belbrook on Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:37 am

flappers wrote:hi all thanks for input
i spoke to a dude from ironman
so im going to order the load plus helpers
and if im not happy i can return so for the 130 bucks ill
give it a go
cheers

did you see a member here has some for sale.
they are in warragul in Vic.
dunno if this helps. you dont have a location in your profile.
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Re: ironman load plus helper add a leaf mn triton

Postby trouble on Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:05 pm

flappers wrote:hi all thanks for input
i spoke to a dude from ironman
so im going to order the load plus helpers
and if im not happy i can return so for the 130 bucks ill
give it a go
cheers

reckon they will be going back, just put Ultimate Suspension on and be done with it
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Re: ironman load plus helper add a leaf mn triton

Postby Hymie on Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:51 pm

If your van is making the tail sag that much you might want to check your tow ball weight to make sure it isn't anywhere near the 270Kg mark.

I had a similar issue and found just by adjust the load in the caravan (moving the heavier items to the centre or just behind the axle) I was able to achieve a better ride height. Yes I have airbags but I don't really put anymore than 20psi (they can take 100psi) to keep the ride level. It is all about balancing your load and I usually end up on dirt roads when I'm towing the van (2650Kg ATM) so I am ever so cautious about the tow ball load and always keep the speed down when on the dirt.
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Re: ironman load plus helper add a leaf mn triton

Postby triton_guru on Mon May 20, 2013 7:46 pm

I installed the load plus leafs a week ago easy installation n what a difference the car felt sooo much more stable and it eliminated all the sag from having a fully load tub n canopy, only thing i would say tho is where it says 40mm i went to about 65mm but real happy with the product nlw all i need is 2 shocks and the back end is done :D
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Re: ironman load plus helper add a leaf mn triton

Postby hec on Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:09 pm

Just fitted the load plus to my13 glx. Cannopy, tjm rear bar, full drawers and dual battery in tub then all my trade gear (chippy).

All this resulted in 40mm rear sag and felt maxed out.

Fitted load plus with 40mm setting and restored trim to exact standard 575mm and handling greatly improved now.
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Re: ironman load plus helper add a leaf mn triton

Postby navdan on Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:56 am

I've had them (Ironman Load+) on my car for three years and while unladen (or even a few hundred kilos in the tray) they do a wonderful job of sorting the woeful rear end on the MN, however, loading up the rear with tools/parts then hitching up the car&trailer leaves me with that sinking feeling.
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Re: ironman load plus helper add a leaf mn triton

Postby GPS98 on Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:56 am

HI

Would it be possible to get a pic of how they look on a MN Triton. Sounds easy to fit but when I had a look at the spring set up looks different to picture.

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Re: ironman load plus helper add a leaf mn triton

Postby brodical on Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:26 pm

Mate I've had these on my mn for about six months and I rate them very high ...for the price you certainly can't go wrong... :lol: and I gt about 70mm lift in the rear and they improved the handling of the ute considerably with just the stock suspension
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Re: ironman load plus helper add a leaf mn triton

Postby 1nutt on Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:11 pm

I have the Ironman load plus springs and I rate them.. got them free as supplier wanted to trial them and Ive not given them back. Still have a softer ride when light and very little sag with car trailer and other 4wd on the back.

Depends if your planning on using them as they are designed, for intermittent load carrying? If not, buy a heavier leaf pack
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