How to service the Auto Transmission

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How to service the Auto Transmission

Postby borngeek on Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:59 am

I have searched and no dice so as I embark on this mission myself (as I dont trust a dealer to do it properly) I have captured the instructions from the service manual to ensure I do it properly...

Two things I dont have is:
a. "a A/T fluid changer" WTF :?
b. a MUT3 to see when the auto is at operating temp.. Figure a 10min drive is operating temp anyway :twisted: looking for the PID to install the temp on my phone OBDII anyway ;)

The rest is semi straight forward... bit of a process involved but nothing too crazy 8-)

Easy as... I hope :lol: OR everyone shout at me and say dont do it!! ??

Was going to stop by dealer and get proper rated oil but seeing the warranty isnt worth the paper its printed on should I use something else? I have had 2 overheat A/T events..... and atm the TC shaking a little as it locks up but that may be related to the rediculous tune I am running on my chip... and the fact I drive like a maniac? :twisted:
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Re: How to service the Auto Transmission

Postby smouch1975 on Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:19 am

a. "a A/T fluid changer" WTF :?

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Re: How to service the Auto Transmission

Postby Lee-thal on Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:58 am

is best to flush all the oil out by using a machine to drain and fill at the same time, auto will hold about 8 litres of fluid all up, drain it from the plug and you will onyl get about 4 litres out, with the machine you may use 12-15 litres to get it all out. By far the best way to do it.

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Re: How to service the Auto Transmission

Postby mad992 on Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:26 pm

BG MATE ,please leave this to the experts this can be a tricky and time consuming process something to look for is a good automatic specialist local mate 8-) then fork out ya dosh
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Re: How to service the Auto Transmission

Postby borngeek on Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:13 pm

OK two saying dont do it... (two that contribute and know better than me for sure)

it doesnt seem fair that i cant do this myself :(

//lee-thal: in the instructions they tell u to drain the cooler to get the whole 8 litres after starting it so they taking you thru 'the long way'... Really I am pretty confident doing what it says... does the machine really make a diff if I follow everything to a T???

//MAD: I am going to speak to a auto specialist in future (with snowie) to adjust things in the box but prefer to try servicing myself, if I am being realistic...?

//have no issue paying someone but if I can realistically do this myself I would prefer to... Until I upgrade the cooler I will continue to get high A/T temps when towing and on sand when being a rev head... Rather service the oil every time I cause this issue and upgrade once snowie pulls digits and we get onto it.. I dont back off if the light comes on :lol: (and BTW the light doesn't go off until you restart the car)

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Re: How to service the Auto Transmission

Postby Lee-thal on Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:48 am

The difference in the machine is that it increases the pressure in the lines and forces out all old oil and deposits, it is amazing to see the difference after using it.

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Re: How to service the Auto Transmission

Postby snowman on Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:42 am

Geek. don't do it.

lets look for an auto guy in sydney.
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Re: How to service the Auto Transmission

Postby borngeek on Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:50 am

OK OK I hear you all 8-)

Thanks again Lee-thal that makes perfect sense to me.. :D

//off to lookup A/T specialists...
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Re: How to service the Auto Transmission

Postby scubapro on Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:30 am

Geek have you found a A/T specialist yet :?:
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Re: How to service the Auto Transmission

Postby snowman on Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:31 am

don't think so Scubapro - any ideas around our way?
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Re: How to service the Auto Transmission

Postby borngeek on Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:59 am

I have a referral to a mob out wide... very wide... yet to make contact will let you know ;)
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Re: How to service the Auto Transmission

Postby scubapro on Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:17 am

Snow I have no idea as I am still looking. I know there is a mob in melbourne that specialise in auto trans mods but no good to us. I would still like to add a bigger external cooler.
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Re: How to service the Auto Transmission

Postby ultimate on Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:13 am

We have always used E.K.R Transmissions in Minto. They are a bit far out for some members but a good starting point. I recommend talking with them first to get a good idea on what you need. Servicing isn't too bad and will usually cost around the $300 mark for a Triton.

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I strongly recommend fitting an aftermarket transmission cooler. They make an incredible difference and are cheap insurance. While your working around the transmission, you should also look at fitting longer breathers. Water is the worst thing for an automatic transmission and the only way to fix water damage is a full rebuild.
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Re: How to service the Auto Transmission

Postby mad992 on Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:17 am

ultimate wrote:We have always used E.K.R Transmissions in Minto. They are a bit far out for some members but a good starting point. I recommend talking with them first to get a good idea on what you need. Servicing isn't too bad and will usually cost around the $300 mark for a Triton.

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I strongly recommend fitting an aftermarket transmission cooler. They make an incredible difference and are cheap insurance. While your working around the transmission, you should also look at fitting longer breathers. Water is the worst thing for an automatic transmission and the only way to fix water damage is a full rebuild.



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Re: How to service the Auto Transmission

Postby Homer on Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:26 am

If I was going to an auto tranny specialist I would have an aftermarket cooler ready for them to fit too.

It's been a problem with Paj's and the Triton in long hard soft sand slogs and would be good to have solved.

Make sure after you have one fitted that whenever it is serviced you personally check the fluid level.
I had one on a Falcon once and it started slipping...turns out they just put in the recommended amount of oil without actually checking.

On the falcon you had to sit at idle with the brakes on - reverse - neutral - drive - repeat and then check the level while running in neutral...
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Re: How to service the Auto Transmission

Postby ultimate on Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:37 am

Good point Homer. Each vehicle has a set procedure for checking and refilling automatic transmission fluid. For example some of the Ford workshop manuals even specify that the vehicle has to be driven for 24km to ensure the transmission is at its normal operating temperature (NOT). Also keep in mind that adding an automatic transmission cooler does slightly increase the fluid capacity so don't just go off the manual ;)
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Re: How to service the Auto Transmission

Postby christocv on Mon May 09, 2011 3:59 pm

thank you borngeek,the workshop manual,shows me how to do it,and i can see that a lot goes to waste,hence the 9.7 litres. thanks again for all the replies.
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Re: How to service the Auto Transmission

Postby chaser on Mon May 09, 2011 6:00 pm

geek if you really wanna do it your self you could just take the drain plug out of the auto and it will take approx 4 lts of sp3 oil it has to be sp3 or the bands in the auto will swell up. 35 mins of driving and the auto will be at temp...

That should suffice for what you want out of it until you get the work done you want!
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Re: How to service the Auto Transmission

Postby borngeek on Mon May 16, 2011 8:35 am

chaser wrote:geek if you really wanna do it your self you could just take the drain plug out of the auto and it will take approx 4 lts of sp3 oil it has to be sp3 or the bands in the auto will swell up. 35 mins of driving and the auto will be at temp...

That should suffice for what you want out of it until you get the work done you want!


Thanks chaser, that is pretty much what I have had done (but wasting a lot of oil to get it fresh).
Someone asked me which type of oil I have used but cannot find the post or pm :?

anyway the recommended by mits is a Castrol product code: TQM-ST
Here is data sheet from Castrol.

I will also tell you all it is expensive stuff. $20 odd a LITRE :roll:

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