Homer wrote:Secret mens business!
BUT.....you better have a sunroof if you muck it up and push right, left, right, left, right,.....don't ask
Cowboy Dave wrote:I have a harness made for a parrot thing that will work. It is a passthrough arrangement with a 20 pin male plug to go into the back of the head unit and a 20 pin female to take the plug from the vehicle. In between it then has some ISO plugs (M&F) with speaker outputs and speaker inputs. I've got some ISO plugs with bare tails to go into those. It looks like spaghetti at the moment but I am convinced I can make it work.
Having said that the factory amp plugs into a different socket altogether (I gather it is the rectangular plug above the ipod din plug). Maybe that socket outputs line level specifically for the amp? Probably that socket has the wiring which would make it show up as the amp being connected? No doubt it also has the accessory power wire to ensure the amp turns off unless the ignition is past the accessory mark? Presumably it would be simpler than my spaghetti approach?
What we need is to identify a specific Mitsubishi model of vehicle that comes with the same Kenwood MMCS and the Rockford Fosgate amp and then someone who can search the part lists for that model to come up with a harness number. Probably if I was more patient these precise details would turn up in a Pajero or Lancer forum somewhere eventually but when I last looked a couple of weeks back I was SOL
Alternatively we need a parts interpreter at a Mitsubishi dealer who has some imagination and is prepared to help find what we need. Haven't come close to finding one of those yet...
Cowboy Dave wrote:burning the midnight oil I see?
I saw a post about the MMCS interface on a Pajero site where it was suggested that Keith has been looking into developing a full interface in terms of the rear seat entertainment. As that's the same plug where I think the AMP connections belong I am tempted to wait and see if he succeeds with that. Did he mention anything like that when you were ordering your interface thing?
Yea said he was working on it as has the full technical diagram for it.... I forgot to asks about the amp plugAlso, where did you mount the switch? Down on the right where the blanks are or somewhere closer to the touchscreen?
The lower right switch blank for now. Very tempting to make a hole in the plastic dash just below the MMCS though.The instructions for the interface online have a diagram of the back panel of the MMCS with numbers and descriptions for the female plugs in the rear of the unit. On the online copy I can't make out the letters/numbers clearly. Are they any clearer on the copy that comes with the unit? I'm wondering if the letters/numbers might provide clues to part numbers or diagrams in the manual or something.
Glad to see the secret screen trick working!
GLX-R MN wrote:How do you go about popping the cowling off the MMCS. I use two hands flat over the top and pull back and down firmly.
Cowboy Dave wrote:Okay found some images on a Pajero forum last night that I figure I should share - wish I'd had them a few weeks back:
Back panel diagram for MMCS (anyone notice the 5.1 SPDIF out?). The images get a bit cut-off click on them for the full view:
Interconnects diagram for MMCS:
and wiring diagram for the iPod connector:
The interconnects one doesn't seem complete to my way of thinking, too many pins marked NC for me to understand correctly. It's the 18, 20 and 24 pin connectors that show up as rectangles at the top and top left that are the main plugs in and out of the thing (although that little spdif is still lurking there...). Notice on the first one that Rear Seat Entertainment System (RSES) audio comes from the top right plug but the RSES video goes into? out of? the bottom left one which is the same place the reverse camera goes in.
Now for 10 USD paid to some dodgy sounding Russians apparently I can have the full service manual for the MMCS
Cowboy Dave wrote:On our version the 20 pin plug has 3 blank holes. Two of them relate to the CAN according to the service manual. Not sure if one can just hijack the CAN Bus and feed the info into the MMCS. I suspect not but if there is someone out there with the skills and motivation then I'll happily buy whatever it is I need to get this stuff happening... I've heard that the guy (Keith?) who makes the speed thing posted about above is working on some sort of interface but as far as I know he is focussing more on the rear entertainment sort of connections than he is on the other vehicle info type stuff.
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