30k service

[Cowboy Dave]

There was a point in time not that long ago when the gaskets were in short supply - I seem to remember one of the Sydney guys had work on his ute delayed while they waited for new gaskets to come in. Not out of the question I guess but I suppose now you know (hopefully) they probably did your tappets like you asked.

[har05l]

There was a point in time not that long ago when the gaskets were in short supply - I seem to remember one of the Sydney guys had work on his ute delayed while they waited for new gaskets to come in. Not out of the question I guess but I suppose now you know (hopefully) they probably did your tappets like you asked.

They also didn't get the vehicle till 8am so time is needed for the engine to cool down before they even think of putting their hands in the engine bay. I've had 2 tappet adjustments so far and drop my truck off at 6.30am, always been ready for me by 4pm

I'm not making excuses for the dealer thommo but $hit doesn't always go to plan. Look on the bright side, you'll have the truck back tomorrow and you'll notice the difference straight away

[Lee-thal]

Definately no shortage on Supplies for them

We carry around 20-30 sets for both the 4d56 and 4m41 engines, And plenty of stock available from the Warehouse.

[borngeek]

The shortage, I experienced, was injector seals were not in stock at the Sydney dealership. They were becoming available from warehouse and came a day or two later. It was just bad timing, and I think MMAL scrambled to restock at that time?

My case was not a dealer service, so the parts were ordered by my local mechanic from the nearby dealer and they needed to bring them into stock.
The dealer in question services a LOT of tritons (fleet) and it is disappointing they did not have adequate 'on hand' stock. But as they say, shit happens.

It could have been the dealer's fault or warehouse stock? They will always point the finger at the other guy.

My car was delayed, one day, but they had plenty to fix in the meantime.

//For the readers here, Lee-thal is right on part & tappets...
I always use genuine parts & lubricants.
I have my tappets serviced by a private licensed mechanic, following the schedule set out by MMAL. (every 30K)

I have never had problems with warranty issues (one a engine issue) with MMAL.

In saying this I am going beyond the service schedule at every service and will have my tappets done at 15K in a couple weeks as 75K is now due. This is just a test to see if necessary...

My service costs make a dealer service look cheap...

[srb]

Hay geek you say you get these services done from your own mechanic but how do you get the small quantity learn? I though Mitsu dealers were the only ones with mut 3 software to do this? Or dont you think this is needed?

[borngeek]

Hay geek you say you get these services done from your own mechanic but how do you get the small quantity learn? I though Mitsu dealers were the only ones with mut 3 software to do this? Or dont you think this is needed?

True. Only the MUT3 can perform learn functions (small quantity, injector code & injection pump learns)

I just have my local mitsubishi dealer perform these, with any ECU updates separately.
So far at no charge, but I expect there would be a nominal charge in the future? It takes 10-15mins max, and yes I have stood next to a tech and watched it performed.
One could ring their local dealer and get a price...
If you were to purchase your genuine parts from that dealer, one hopes they would continue to do this for free... However, we live in a commercial world and time = money.

I do think you should periodically have it done.

According to the manual, a SQL also resets the duty cycle of the engine. Duty cycle is measured by the denso ECU, according to denso website, to slowly lean the engine over time to the service interval. (One presumes this is to avoid engine damage and/or increase service life as the tappets go out of adjustment and fluids etc age?)

[srb]

Thanks geek, I'm understanding all this better now.
It's should be made illegal for car manufactures to have specialist diagnostic tools and software that isn't available for private mechanics. I called Westend Diesel and they said they have been trying for years to get the tools.

As I've said before, I hate going to the dealers! They totally shit me with all their bull shit and their lack of care. I don't care for capped price service! To me this is just marketing bull shit and is more incentive for them to cut corners. And why should I pay for apprentices to work on my vehicle! It really pisses me off when they say it has to be serviced ONLY by the dealer to retain warranty when we all know this is not the case. DON'T GET ME STARTED!

[Lee-thal]

SRB,

there is already something in the Federal Government trying to get te software available to anyone.

Let me tell you this, For the MUT it cost nearly $18000 for the machine and the software and ongoing updates. I have no doubt that NO EXTERNAL repairer will pay the same for it. The amount of training the techs have to go through to ensure it is used correctly is Phenominal, you can DESTROY an ECU if u dont use it correctly.

Maybe Find a Dealer that might care about u a Little More. Be real in your expectations and what Dealers can do to help you. A lot of times Dealers can only do so much.

Who has told you it can only be serviced by a Dealer?

[srb]

SRB,

there is already something in the Federal Government trying to get te software available to anyone.

Let me tell you this, For the MUT it cost nearly $18000 for the machine and the software and ongoing updates. I have no doubt that NO EXTERNAL repairer will pay the same for it. The amount of training the techs have to go through to ensure it is used correctly is Phenominal, you can DESTROY an ECU if u dont use it correctly.

Maybe Find a Dealer that might care about u a Little More. Be real in your expectations and what Dealers can do to help you. A lot of times Dealers can only do so much.

Who has told you it can only be serviced by a Dealer?

My dealer told told me this.
So I politely told them thats not right and said I would report them... They back peddled real fast.

No offence Lee but in regards to ecu updates and injection learning I'm sure its not rocket science like all you dealers make it out to be. And dealer mechanics don't get paid enough to be that good.

Sorry if my opinions upset you Lee but unfortunatly there are way too many dodgy dealers out there that have tainted the dealer servicing name. I know from all the post on here that you guys get a very good wrap (Eagers) and this is where I would probably take mine if I lived there but unfortunately the guy's near me are very average and seem very inexperienced. There is a new service manager there atm and he seems ok so far but I'm still not real sure about their mechanics. I have only ever had one warranty issue with them when it was new and they completely f@%k me over and cost me a lot of heart ach that could have easily been avoided. Trust me I'm a real easy guy to get along with and I work for myself so I do know a thing or two about customer satisfaction.

[Lee-thal]

Your Post Doesnt Upset me, BUT what gets me more than anything is generalising what Dealers offer, There are over 200 Dealers in Australia and Not every one of them are Stealers as so many people like to put it.

There are a lot of Genuine, Passionate people at Dealers and most of them are more than happy to do what they can to Help. Are there Bad Dealers??? OF COURSE i will not dispute that for a second.

I am not saying it is hard to Carry out an SQL, But doing Software Updates although not complicated there are many little steps taken to ensure that it happens correctly. I HAVE personally Seen ECU's Destroyed during this process because a step was missed.

Again u generalise about Apprentices working on cars, Do we have apprentices, Of course we do. They tend to do the Minor services, BUT WITHOUT them working and learning on your car, in years to come there will be no skilled workers to work on your vehicle.

Trust me technicians these days are getting Paid better than what you think, At least in SEQ anyways.

I am extremely passionate about what i do and this prob shows in my responses, no doubt in your business you are the same.

Cheers Lee

[srb]

Your Post Doesnt Upset me, BUT what gets me more than anything is generalising what Dealers offer, There are over 200 Dealers in Australia and Not every one of them are Stealers as so many people like to put it.

There are a lot of Genuine, Passionate people at Dealers and most of them are more than happy to do what they can to Help. Are there Bad Dealers??? OF COURSE i will not dispute that for a second.

I am not saying it is hard to Carry out an SQL, But doing Software Updates although not complicated there are many little steps taken to ensure that it happens correctly. I HAVE personally Seen ECU's Destroyed during this process because a step was missed.

Again u generalise about Apprentices working on cars, Do we have apprentices, Of course we do. They tend to do the Minor services, BUT WITHOUT them working and learning on your car, in years to come there will be no skilled workers to work on your vehicle.

Trust me technicians these days are getting Paid better than what you think, At least in SEQ anyways.

I am extremely passionate about what i do and this prob shows in my responses, no doubt in your business you are the same.

Cheers Lee

Well said mate, you are one of the good guys for sure and Mitsu Australia are bloody lucky to have you. Unfortunately not all dealers are equal, so I apologize for coming across all negative towards dealer.

And yes I understand we all need apprentices... I was one once But it all comes down to who's supervising their work and making sure its right. I have no doubt you guys do this.

At the end of the day there are some good tradesmen and some bad. I see poor workmanship every day and in my game (sparky) wonder how they sleep at night.

Any ways this has gone too far off topic now so I'll finish my rant and give you my thanks.

[Thommo3337]

Got the car back today! Seems as though everything was done (I will never know if they did the adjustment) the hose that is connected to the turbo is still sitting low an inch mentioned this and the mechanic said it's fine as long as it doesn't slip past the lip the 3rd gear sequential on down shift has been noted as a possible gearbox change down the track (very surprised) the Bluetooth has been reprogrammed for the second time (not to happy wanted it replaced) updated the program asked to check for carbon build up but don't think they did! Will probably take it back whilst it is still under capped servicing but their is know way ode put up with this crap if I had to pay more than a local mechanic!!

[Lee-thal]

Thanks SRB,

Time to get back on Topic,

Hopefully they have completed everything for you THommo,
Dont be too worried about the Hose, Mine sits in the Same area and never had an issue,

Cheers Lee

[hvac guy]

My sister got her 30k service today and they didn't do the tappets
She rang and asked me what should be done.
When I told her she flipped out and asked why weren't they done
And he said its not covered in capped price servicing
And will be an extra 400 bucks.


She lives in Darwin

[har05l]

My sister got her 30k service today and they didn't do the tappets
She rang and asked me what should be done.
When I told her she flipped out and asked why weren't they done
And he said its not covered in capped price servicing
And will be an extra 400 bucks.


She lives in Darwin

That is a complete load of $hit hvac

My 30k and 60k were both covered under the capped service no questions asked.

I'd have her go back and get it sorted asap

[hvac guy]

Yeah she's on to it. booked it to get done She's making a formal complant to mmal

[Dunga71]

Dropped the truck in this morning for the 30k service went back to get it and they said it wouldnt be ready until mid morning tomorrow,something about updates taking a long time to load ?Should i be worried

[hvac guy]

might be fixing up some panel work. lol

dont stress at least they rang.

[lufc]

my mn is going in for its 30000k service at the end of the month, should i remove the egr blanking plate

[motoz]

my mn is going in for its 30000k service at the end of the month, should i remove the egr blanking plate

I haven't bothered removing mine since fitting. It should just be a general service and tappet adjustment.

[lufc]

i am concerned if they relise its there will it void warrenty

[Dunga71]

Got the truck back this morning and very happy with the work,fixed my lack of power issues under load and the annoying steering knock,tappets where done and a 2 page list of other work all under the capped price of $590.00,i may have a good one here

[srb]

Good to hear Dunga. Mine goes in tomorrow for its 30k tickle. I'm very nervous. Hate other people touching my truck! Specially stealers!

[lufc]

Got the truck back this morning and very happy with the work,fixed my lack of power issues under load and the annoying steering knock,tappets where done and a 2 page list of other work all under the capped price of $590.00,i may have a good one here

with the no power under load is that just on take off, when i have the van on its crap on take of, if i am on a hill i have to double clutch it

[Dunga71]

take off seems to be a bit better,but i had nothing up top with a load on, the new programming has fixed it