Random Suspension Questions

[ultimate]

We haven't really experienced an issues with steering geometry on the Triton. I know scubapro wanted a bit more out his steering and alignment a few years ago, but that's about it. We had custom offset bushes made up for his upper control arms which helped to improve his set up. We never really had a call for it beyond this so we didn't end up continuing with them. I will enquire to see what's available now.

A couple of companies are currently working on adjustable upper control arms. Depending on the costs, this might be a better way to go as it's easier to replace the whole arm and you can fine tune both camber and castor. I will keep you posted.

[snowman]

We haven't really experienced an issues with steering geometry on the Triton. I know scubapro wanted a bit more out his steering and alignment a few years ago, but that's about it. We had custom offset bushes made up for his upper control arms which helped to improve his set up. We never really had a call for it beyond this so we didn't end up continuing with them. I will enquire to see what's available now.

A couple of companies are currently working on adjustable upper control arms. Depending on the costs, this might be a better way to go as it's easier to replace the whole arm and you can fine tune both camber and castor. I will keep you posted.

I would appreciate that. Obviously when at 2" you get closer to the edge of the adjustment envelope - i get that.

But i find it impossible to keep a wheel alignment and also to get turn in. combine that with no return to centre after about 70% of lock it is starting to piss me off a bit.

Maybe i should take it to a decent front end setup specialist. Do you (or anyone in Sydney) recommend any with an alignment machine? most of them now you get a 10 minute window and see ya later. Half the time i am lucky to get my steering wheel straight.

[ultimate]

Pro-Axle in Enfield is one of the best alignment shops I have ever dealt with. They are truck and four wheel drive specialists and have more knowledge and dedication than your normal tyre shops. You will pay the truck rate though so expect around $150.00 - $250.00 depending on how long it takes them.

[ag9111]

Thank you Snowy.

Not just me then

[kxboss]

Hi Guys had a quick search, but did not get the answer

WHy are Extended shackles illegal what is the issue and what harm do they do, was thinking about them as my MY 2012 drags it ass a bit.

Thanks

[RHKTriton]

They look a quick fix, however being critical in maintaining the rear axle position relative to the chassis, they will place a large amount of extra stress on the chassis mounts and the pins in the shackle.

One day you might go around a corner and end up with the rear end of the springs flopping around - not good.

[RHKTriton]

They look a quick fix, however being critical in maintaining the rear axle position relative to the chassis, they will place a large amount of extra stress on the chassis mounts and the pins in the shackle.

One day you might go around a corner and end up with the rear end of the springs flopping around - not good.

[ag9111]

Extended shackles are not illegal but extendable ones are.

Also known as drop shackles.

Don't know why? Anybody?

[al coholic]

Extended shackles are not illegal but extendable ones are.

Also known as drop shackles.

Don't know why? Anybody?

Think you'll find extended shackles are illegal......in every state apart from the NT I believe.

It's probably to do with changing geometry of the suspension and the extra strain that places on other components

[ultimate]

Extended shackles are illegal in all states (Including NT as they work off the NCOP).

As Al coholic pointed out, they change the suspension geometry and put a lot more pressure on the main leaf. The laws are written to cover all vehicle makes and models. You may never have an issue on a Triton, but failures on other vehicles have forced the transport authorities to do a blanket ban on them.

[busyman]

They are widely used regardless

[Peepee]

The front left of the Challenger is sagging quite noticeably, has anyone else had this before?

[coughy]

yes both front sagging on mine so i replace the front strut/shocks and now all good
with a new 2"lift spring all round .

[jamespb78]

Is there a difference between a "lift kit" and just changing over all the springs to handle the extra weight on a car?

Is there some extra part that goes into a "lift kit"? Or is a lift kit just the process of replacing the springs to the point where the car sits higher than factory?

Hope that makes sense!

[GLRkenny]

A lift kit will have longer springs, not always heavier and longer travel shock absorbers generally

[liamk]

Hi all, I just fitted raised king springs (KCFR-55) to the factory shocks and have noticied the droop stop sits about 10mm closer on the upper arm on the R/H side than on the L/H. I noticed when it was difficult to refit the droop stop on the R/H side when reassembling as I had to have the control arm fully supported while i lifted the opposite rear corner of the car just to get enough clearance to put it back in. The ride height is actually 5mm more on the left front so its weird that the R/H side droop stop has less clearance. Has anyone noticied this on theirs? I fitted the springs to support the steel bullbar and it sits nicely now, only 5-10mm lower than the back now.

[GLRkenny]

Did you do everything up with or without weight on it?

[liamk]

with weight on it. one side at a time

[GLRkenny]

Well, I've got nothing then sorry

[salt36]

Hi all, I just fitted raised king springs (KCFR-55) to the factory shocks and have noticied the droop stop sits about 10mm closer on the upper arm on the R/H side than on the L/H. I noticed when it was difficult to refit the droop stop on the R/H side when reassembling as I had to have the control arm fully supported while i lifted the opposite rear corner of the car just to get enough clearance to put it back in. The ride height is actually 5mm more on the left front so its weird that the R/H side droop stop has less clearance. Has anyone noticied this on theirs? I fitted the springs to support the steel bullbar and it sits nicely now, only 5-10mm lower than the back now.

Let it settle for a few days and get a wheel alignment, this should then correct the difference.

The majority of Tritons sit up to 10mm lower on the passenger side...

[liamk]

yeh thanks guys, have organised a wheel alignment. Just cant figure out why the LH side has more clearance on droopstop when it actually has more ride height than the RH side. Higher ride height = less clearance on droop stop. What i'm thinking is its due to chassis/suspension arm manufacturing differences. Can someone else compare the clearance on their droop stops left to right also noting each sides ride height?

[grapes1978]

Hi all,


Ride qualitiy Question.

New to site and to the triton which I picked up yesterday. It's a 2012 GLX-R manual.

It has had a 2inch lift which I'm thinking I don't want.....very high to hop into and I don't think I'll need it.

Is it easy enough to remove a lift kit and put it back to original? Will it be likely that they would of changed the shocks etc when they did it and mean a whole new kit again?

I essentially would like the car to be lower and have a softer ride! Hahahahaha. Soft I know....sorry but it has to be my daily drive and the family need to travel in it comfortably too.

Any advice/ideas would be great.

Thanks

[ultimate]

You can fit standard springs with the aftermarket shocks. This will lower the height without compromising too much on the handling.

The ride quality is difficult to predict without knowing what's currently fitted. Most aftermarket kits are more comfortable in the rear than factory suspension as you have more clearance between the first and second stages (Stops a lot of the jarring from the rear end). If it currently has a heavy duty leaf spring fitted with no weight, The standard springs will be more comfortable. If it's a raised comfort/medium duty spring, they may actually be more comfortable than standard.

Being a new vheicle, I would also check the tyre pressures to make sure they aren't too high.

[08glxr]

Looking at replacing front and rear shocks on my ml triton and wanted to know about raised suspension.
Do i need front and rear shocks to suit a 2" lift?
Does the Auto get shudder? not sure if its 1 or 2 piece tailshaft havent looked yet.
Only use my car on raod with occasional camper trailer towing, might go offroad a bit more but at the moment got standard 17" rims with highway tyres but will change to all terrain once they need replacing.
Thanks for any help

[FreestyleCab]

You will definitely need slightly longer shocks in the rear as new leaves usually mean more articulation than stock. As for the fronts, new shocks are not required as the front end travel range is limited by upper and lower bumpstops. BUT ....I would always add a new shock that is valved correctly to suit the new lifted springs though. Lots of suspension suppliers can supply the front shock and spring fully assembled so no gut busting with spring compressors is required. A 2 piece tailshaft / 2" lift may induce shudder. Plenty of info on here regarding leaf wedges, tailshaft spacers and Ultimates' modded centre bearing.