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Re: Suction Control Valve

Postby Homer on Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:20 pm

Maybe I have an issue with my suction control valve?
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Re: Suction Control Valve

Postby DocBassett on Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:31 pm

There is a spray you can buy these days that you spray up your intake to help make it last longer you know......
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Re: Suction Control Valve

Postby trouble on Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:32 pm

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Re: Suction Control Valve

Postby DocBassett on Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:32 pm

think it's made by CRC or something. :lol:
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Re: Suction Control Valve

Postby trouble on Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:33 pm

DocBassett wrote:There is a spray you can buy these days that you spray up your intake to help make it last longer you know......

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Re: Suction Control Valve

Postby Homer on Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:39 pm

Yeah, yeah I'm onto you blokes. That's a bloody setup :roll:

Still growing back the itchy butt hair after an unfortunate fart too close to the campfire when I gave the intake a bit of a squirt :evil:

You guys need to stay on topic BTW....
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Re: Suction Control Valve

Postby DocBassett on Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:50 pm

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Re: Suction Control Valve

Postby snowman on Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:33 pm

Homer wrote:My ex used to call me two stroke...could never work that out? :? must have been my oily skin or something :roll:


i ended up going the 6k8 resistor mod.

the missus costs me 6 to 8k a year and she resists everything :roll: :roll: keeps telling me it is too cold or something. :cry: :cry:
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Re: Suction Control Valve

Postby Cowboy Dave on Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:38 pm

Wow I wish that was all mine cost a year. Reckon mine is running a full blank too. :shock:
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Re: Suction Control Valve

Postby Homer on Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:29 pm

snowman wrote:
i ended up going the 6k8 resistor mod.

the missus costs me 6 to 8k a year and she resists everything :roll: :roll: keeps telling me it is too cold or something. :cry: :cry:


:lol: :lol: I went to a specialist recently regarding installation of a resistor mod of my own but on reflection we both agreed the other half possess a significantly higher natural resistance than anything he could produce medically or electrically so cost effectiveness was an immediate concern.
He did mention something about a potential recall based on expected service life but apparently we shouldn't get our hopes up as that isn't generally considered a warranty issue, rather a wear and tear factor, despite the cost of maintenance or the number of replacements and upgrades that have taken place before failure.

Based on his sound advice and previous experience I decided to resist major cutting and modification of the original equipment and will spend more time and effort sourcing better suited and superior factory supplied equipped options....apparently manufacturing isn't the only previously locally sourced commodity that is now both better and cheaper from overseas suppliers.


Although I do think it's a problem when you can only assume they are running a blank :P :lol:
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Re: Suction Control Valve

Postby al coholic on Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:19 am

I couldn't give a shit about the warranty on mine, it's not worth the effort :roll: We all know they will need upgrading when warranty runs out anyway.

The day I got her home I started with the mods.....new headlights and a lift kit in the rear ;)
I've left the EGR unblocked and she has been running sweet for a long time......although I think the suction control valve is starting to play up a bit now :|

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Re: Suction Control Valve

Postby al coholic on Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:24 am

We are talking bout Tritons right??? :| :lol: :lol:
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Re: Suction Control Valve

Postby snowman on Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:41 am

i wouldn't mind giving mine a headlight upgrade -the current ones are a bit dimmer than when I first got her.

the suction control valve has always been a bit hit and miss on mine as well. :lol: :lol: :lol:

i think we need some mods through here with a broom. :| :oops:
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Re: Suction Control Valve

Postby Homer on Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:17 am

:lol: Headlight upgrade is something that should be done as early as possible to gain the maximum benefit over a longer period because just like the expected suction control valve issues, there is often major work required deep inside the head as they get higher k's on them.
No one is really sure why but I think it initially relates to a coolant/radiator issue as they start to randomly overheat, become very difficult to start and the noise increases significantly.
You are generally better off in the long run getting rid of them rather than suffer through these hard to diagnose problems as it's often very difficult to spot the symptoms until they suffer a total failure - but troublesome suction control valve issues is often regarded as a pre curser.

It is highly recommended to trade up rather than suffer through all the stop start ignition issues and constant maintenance costs and work that occurs as soon as the head problems appear, so if you consider that for some strange reason people form an emotional attachment to their particular model - and if you've only recently forked out the big bucks on say a really good projector headlight upgrade - you may be reluctant to do the smart thing and tow her off to the wreckers and head back to a dealership for a shiny new one until it's really way too late.

So whack the new lights in almost as soon as she's broken in for best value ;)
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Re: Suction Control Valve

Postby snowman on Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:25 am

i looked at an upgrade and the payout cost was unbearable to go to a newer model. :shock: :shock: :shock: and in any case the new model gets old as well and starts a whole host of new issues to keep up with.

also over the years i have enough spare parts that i can build three small versions of the same car and it seems i am stuck with those as i can't sell them off.

ultimately it is easier to leave the old girl in the garage more often and just walk.........
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Re: Suction Control Valve

Postby trouble on Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:26 am

This is fantastic advise for any new buyer.
So your saying the extended warranty isn't worth it, unless you have completed all the above mods, like the headlight upgrade (might look into that one) (I've heard that mod can be expensive$$$).
Funny you guys mention the rear end, my old girl is looking a little low slung???
Like I have said above the SCV seems to have cleared and is now performing like the day I got her!!! :0
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Re: Suction Control Valve

Postby snowman on Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:10 am

trouble wrote:Funny you guys mention the rear end, my old girl is looking a little low slung???
Like I have said above the SCV seems to have cleared and is now performing like the day I got her!!! :0


this is typically a failure of the model as they all sag over time :cry: :cry: it depends on how much weight it is carrying too.

half your luck on the SCV. some blokes get ones that works a treat and others get ones that only work in the early days and then they can be very sporadic from then on in :| . It seems after market is the way to go in this regard. :o
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Re: Suction Control Valve

Postby Cowboy Dave on Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:19 am

Aftermarket and/or hire cars?
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Re: Suction Control Valve

Postby snowman on Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:21 am

hire cars are good CD but they are all pretty standard fare..........unless you go exotic and then they are expensive. :shock: :shock:

oh we could get into so much trouble from here on in.................. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Suction Control Valve

Postby trouble on Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:30 am

Mmm interesting weight could be an issue with the rear???
What can be done here??

Might stick with OEM on the SCV at this stage! If it plays up again I could always look into after market ;)
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Re: Suction Control Valve

Postby har05l on Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:34 am

snowman wrote:
oh we could get into so much trouble from here on in.................. :lol: :lol: :lol:


I've been into trouble and I tell you it wasn't nice :twisted: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Suction Control Valve

Postby trouble on Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:37 am

Can a mod ban ^^^him^^^?
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Re: Suction Control Valve

Postby viking shippy on Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:43 am

Since I put the raised leafs in my saggy rear I've had a problem with my headlight upgrade I carnt see down the road....will some t2 in the fuel tank fix my scv so I can see the road in front of me...thanks in advance....blindman..
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Re: Suction Control Valve

Postby DocBassett on Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:53 pm

Cowboy Dave wrote:Aftermarket and/or hire cars?

I had a mate who got a hire car once. He hadnt even gone for a 2 minute ride before he started to get an aweful smell coming from its undercarriage. So he got out and took a good look underneath. Sure enough it had been absolutely thrashed. Bits and pieces were falling out, looked like it had been hired by a thousand blokes before him. There was a green slime dripping out. Wasnt sure if it was coolant or what, but he knew he wasn't getting back in incase it'd kill him........ must have been a toyota hire car. You know the type, built stock standard with no extra thrills, but goes and goes until its 60 years old.
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Re: Suction Control Valve

Postby Homer on Sun Feb 23, 2014 2:04 pm

It's unpatriotic to say but I've definitely found most of the overseas models seem to offer much better performance and owner satisfaction and from recent experience are considerably more economical and trouble free to run to boot.

I think it probably stems from a somewhat modified powerplant that doesn't utilize an SCV at all...absolutely no control over the suction/intake so very little chance of it becoming stuck closed.

They are very compact though and you do have to get used to squeezing yourself into them, but once you have adjusted to it I have found I prefer it.
Their lubrication system is second to none and I'd hazard a guess you'd rarely even require an oil or filter change meaning there is little chance of them letting you down while you wait for them to be tuned or serviced even after putting in big kilometres.

They also seem to come straight off the production line with ultimate suspension even though they don't carry anywhere near the weight we are used to seeing on our old rigs, so even well into the high mileage figures there is very little or no sag in the rear.

They do however respond well to a headlight upgrade and as with all variants, the earlier the better on these models too. Another benefit is there are many low cost centres available that we don't have in Australia and top of the line genuine angel eye projectors can be fitted for no more than a few grand.

From my investigations I think the only way around the SCV issues is to look towards some of these newer more exotic overseas models with a much lower maintenance cost.
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