Carbon build - up its everyone’s problem.

[Jitsukablue]

Update on my situ... after the inlet manifold was modified, the surging continued for a week. 3 days before it was due to go into Mitsu... it stopped surging. Drives very well now.

[ML-VR08]

Must be a fuel type issue, maybe just needed time to adjust! IM going to book my truck in for the manifold issue, as i feel low on torque and power. Anyone else running a 3" exhaust on a auto triton having any problems with torque?

[patto]

Mate im not running a 3inch exshaust and im lacking plenty of torque and power,

They are having what are some apparently specialist techs looking at it as the mechs at the Sydney city are scratching there heads. If they cant sort it i will take the car to Turboglide down the gong to rectify.

[Buzzy]

Gee I hope they sort this out for you patto without to much more stuffing around.
Would hate to see you get rid of it because of all this crap. Although I couldnt blame you

[MonsterTriton]

guys, the oil will not help the turbo at all, but will make it damage quicker.

all water cooled and oil supplied turbos, (like ours) have a direct oil line feed,
u dont need oil on your compressor wheel at all.
plus imagen a compressor wheel spinning at 100,000rpm while there is black sticky carbon oil all over it.
it doesnt help at all.

if you dont want the oil to drip. then bypass the rubber tube down, and then bolt on a oil catch can,
it will help. but make sure the rubber tube and the catch can is directed under the truck, for easy flow patterns.

[patto]

Funny you say that Buzzy - as i just signed for a new one for the company today. Dont get me wrong i love the car - whilst mine is being a huge pain ion the arse atm. They appear to be looking after me as best as they think they can.

Im just questioning there actual mechanical aptitude towards turbo diesel motors, im sue they service 30 petrol cars to 1 diesel. I think they just dont fully understand the operation of diesel motors properly - sure they do a mitsubishi traing course that shows them the basics how to replace filter etc. But the bare back bone knowledge i dont think they have.

Thats why im opting to send it or they send it on my behalf to a proper Turbo Diesel specialist such as turboglide or Bowral Diesels im confident they will will have it sorted asap.

[hicko]

Mine has just started to do the surging thing so it’s time for a trip to the dealer

[mad992]

mines running fine its done 5500klms and i just gave her first oil +filter change the standard oil was still good lots of slipperyness but black as the ace of spades so it was doing its job btw i put castrol back in her and its running like a train,i spoke to the local mitsu service manager and he assured me they have not even done a new manifold because they reflash the ecu and time the injectors on every new pajero and triton they sell and the cause of the problem has a lot to do with moisture in the air ,humidity and fuel quality,not oil as some say here so i know that it will be a long time before i see any signs of the carbon problem,but hey its a diesel so i gotta expect thatand another thing i asked him about uni-filter he scoffed and said stay away from them in the tritons because they will get some oil on the sensor wire in the intake hose and its stuffed $1500 to fix ,look i believe him cause he sees subarus nissans and mitsu running shit from wet type air filters that have been over oiled u must be careful with this type of air filters stick with standard paper filter i say. cheers

[GLX-R Alex]

Ill be picking up my new triton GLX-R deisel soon, Does anyone know if the 09 models come with the updated manifild fitted already?

[mad992]

they dont i dont think so,the new software program solves the problem for the majority,,,new manifold is last resort fix

[subi_man]

Ill be picking up my new triton GLX-R deisel soon, Does anyone know if the 09 models come with the updated manifild fitted already?

yes mate, the they do come with the improved manifold already - I have seen one with my own eyes

[mad992]

cheerz subes coz the ones ive seen havent, so finally they must be fitting them factory

[GLX-R Alex]

Ill be picking up my new triton GLX-R deisel soon, Does anyone know if the 09 models come with the updated manifild fitted already?

yes mate, the they do come with the improved manifold already - I have seen one with my own eyes

Sweettttttt

[nev08]

Ive had surging issues and the dealer was supposed to fit new manifold and do reflash, but i dont think they even lifted hood as i canceled the 45 000k service,($$$$) triton runnig same as before, they didnt give me any paper work or fill in book. I will look at photos in this thread and compare.
When the reflash ECU does it reset youre other electrics (radio etc) as mine was same after reflash.

if antyone could shed some light on this before i go to dealer making acusations. Would like to get the issue recified as i am taking Wife and kids to N.T thru QLD and back down the birdville track in september.
CHEERS

[hicko]

Ive had surging issues and the dealer was supposed to fit new manifold and do reflash, but i dont think they even lifted hood as i canceled the 45 000k service,($$$$) triton runnig same as before, they didnt give me any paper work or fill in book. I will look at photos in this thread and compare.
When the reflash ECU does it reset youre other electrics (radio etc) as mine was same after reflash.

if antyone could shed some light on this before i go to dealer making acusations. Would like to get the issue recified as i am taking Wife and kids to N.T thru QLD and back down the birdville track in september.
CHEERS

I don’t think that the computer reflash fixes the surging problem as my Triton still did it are I cleaned the carbon out of the manifold . All the reflash does is stop the EGR valve opening as often which is suppose to cut back on the carbon being recycled through the manifold.
My problem with the carbon build up was the motor going into limp home mode because the carbon was blocking the turbo over boost sensor.
The surging is another problem. In my case It seems to come and go and at the moment it is not doing it. I think it has something to do with fuel delivery. My next service is due soon so I will look into it them.

[nev08]

I had Trit in for 60k service last week and the fitted new suction control valve, Now it is running worse, the ride on mower has smoother acceleration then the triton atm.
Booked in at dealer on thursday to take tech for a drive to show him how bad it is, the dealer is being more helpful then usual.
hope to get it all sorted before trip up north, atm i would not risk taking the triton to remote areas.

[hicko]

I had Trit in for 60k service last week and the fitted new suction control valve, Now it is running worse, the ride on mower has smoother acceleration then the triton atm.
Booked in at dealer on thursday to take tech for a drive to show him how bad it is, the dealer is being more helpful then usual.
hope to get it all sorted before trip up north, atm i would not risk taking the triton to remote areas.

Good luck with the dealer.
That’s why I took things into my own hands and cleaned the carbon out myself and blanked off the erg valve. 90000kms and still running sweet.
F^&k the warranty .
Hicko

[boostedbmw]

I had Trit in for 60k service last week and the fitted new suction control valve, Now it is running worse, the ride on mower has smoother acceleration then the triton atm.
Booked in at dealer on thursday to take tech for a drive to show him how bad it is, the dealer is being more helpful then usual.
hope to get it all sorted before trip up north, atm i would not risk taking the triton to remote areas.

Good luck with the dealer.
That’s why I took things into my own hands and cleaned the carbon out myself and blanked off the erg valve. 90000kms and still running sweet.
F^&k the warranty .
Hicko

Same here. All great so far.

[MR T]

well im getting the manifold changed over some time in the next few weeks what should i be asking to be done
ecu reflash
new suction control valve
anything else

[Greedy]

new suction control valve

They will probably only change this if it's the old style valve you currently have. Mine was changed last service.

[Steve911]

At about 45,000km's my engine light came on. At the time I couldn't feel any difference in the performance of the vehicle and took it to a dealer in Bega. They reset the electronics and gave me the vehicle back without any explanation. On the way back to Eden the light came back on. I rang a Melbourne dealer and was told that a "sensor" in the manifold may have some soot in it, but it's ok to drive and will not hurt the car. I had no problems with performance at all (On holidays dragging a 2,000kg boat around) so I ignored the light until my 60k service. At that service the dealer cleaned the sensor I couldn't believe the difference. It was like I got a new car! The following week the dealer rang to let me know that the manifold will be replaced under warranty. This new manifold has the sensor in a different location where it won't get clogged. Interesting thing was that the dealer claimed that Australia and The Netherlands? have the dirtiest Diesel and that this was the main problem as it does not happen any where else. (I'm thinking bullshit, but who cares)

[MR T]

got the new manifold put in today hope it helps fuel ecconomy they didnt do a reflash or change the control valve as it didnt need it any way time will tell

[heybazza]

G’day everyone I have been looking at the intake manifold on my ute (its fitted with old style) and a decided to pull of the hose and have a look, it was quite blocked and wanted to clean the tail/barb that comes out of the manifold. After thinking about this for a bit I have come up with what I feel is a good way to clean it.

1\ remove the small hose @ manifold
2\ get a small drill bit that fits nicely in the outlet of manifold
3\ get someone to start ute and hold eng revs at approx 2000rpm (this allows turbo to boost up and pressurize manifold and blow the loosened carbon out and not be pushed into engine!!)
4\ push drill bit in slowly turning in a clockwise direction so drill bit pulls the carbon out as well as turbo pressure blowing it out, Continue untill you are happy its clean.
5\ replace hose and clamps.

I have left the drill bit in glove box of my ute incase it needs to be done on the side of the road somewhere.

Hope this is of help to someone!!!

[GLX-R Alex]

Carbon is no longer a problem for me... Close off the ERG exhaust supply.. Solved

[Eelesy]

im still undecided on whether its a good or bad thing to blank it off

im not sure if ill do it yet

im yet to really see major problems except the enging light coming on. so thats a plus

in theory it seems logical, why would u put dirty exhaust back thru the motor